Nov. 22, 2024

January Jones sharing Abortion Rights with US Fractured by Dr. Shila Patel

January Jones sharing Abortion Rights with US Fractured by Dr. Shila Patel

Welcome Dr. Shila Patel Author, retired psychiatrist, and women’s rights advocate.
Women in states with draconian abortion laws are already experiencing catastrophic results.
Dr. Patel highlights the trauma and mental health issues that can arise from...

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Welcome Dr. Shila Patel Author, retired psychiatrist, and women’s rights advocate.
Women in states with draconian abortion laws are already experiencing catastrophic results.
Dr. Patel highlights the trauma and mental health issues that can arise from forced pregnancies, particularly in cases of rape or incest. She also questions the lack of support for prenatal care, child rearing, and mental health services for these women and their children. She is the author of “US Fractured.”

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Who is January Jones. She is not a young, beautiful,

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talented actress on Mad Mad. She is not an older,

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gorgeous exotic dancer from The Johnny Carson Show. She is

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an author and she wrote Thou Show Not Why the

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Eleventh Commandment that rates number one at Amazon dot com.

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She is a reality TV golf personality with World High

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Stakes Golf televised on hd Net. She is a human

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and why knowlogist expert. She is your featured host today

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on January Jones sharing success stories. So sit back, relax,

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and get ready to laugh and listen to Ms Jones

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with her eclectic roster of guests as you learn life's lessons.

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These stories plus sharing equal success. Welcome and remember beware

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because you are entering the no whining world of January Jones.

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Hello everyone, I hope you're having a glittery, glowing day.

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I'm January Jones, and I'd like to welcome you to

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our podcast. As you can see, I'm in my glitter

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granny attire, which we'll tell you about later in the show. Also,

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I'm wearing an American Heart Association T shirt. My husband

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as a heart survivor, and we were invited to walk

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in the Tampa General Hospital Walk last weekend. It was

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an honor and we're so proud of our shirts. Now,

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for my listeners, let me ask you a question. Have

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you ever had a chance to meet a psychiatrist? Yes,

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a real one, one who is passionate about women's rights

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as I am. What tell me?

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What do you think.

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About Roe versus Wade being overturned? Well, everyone has opinions

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about that these days. Also, do you remember the first

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time you heard about a school shooting?

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Yeah?

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We all do remember that. Can you imagine what it

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would be like to deal with someone with mental health

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issues within your own family? Tell me, have you ever

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heard of a book called Fractured. If you can answer

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yes or maybe to any of these questions, then you

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are in the right place. And I'd like to welcome

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you to January Jones sharing senior success stories. Now, I'd

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like to tell you a little bit about my guest today.

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She Oh, before we do that, be sure to go

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get your wine, cheese and crackers. That's our ritual here,

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you know, I have mine here. My guest was born

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in Kenya and she went to school in Britain and Scotland. Yes,

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and then she moved to America when she was only

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twenty six years old, which is a pretty young time

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to move anywhere. She practiced. Is a licensed psychiatrist and

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practicing for over twenty five years, working with children, mostly

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in adults too, and during the pandemic, with the increased

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incidents of mental health issues, she decided to write three books,

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US US On Hinge and US Fractuirt Great titles, Great titles.

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It is my pleasure to welcome to the show doctor

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Shila Patel. Hi, Shila, Hi.

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Thank you for having me on your show. It's a

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real honor.

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Oh, it's wonderful to have you on. I've been looking

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forward to this the story has got to be fascinating.

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So you started out, how did your parents get to Kenyo?

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Tell us the Kenya part of your story.

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My father was an amazing man who really believe lived

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in improving his destiny. So at the very young age

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between seventeen and nineteen, he and a friend got on

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a boat because at that time there were you know,

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no flights or anything coming all the way over from

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India to the east coast of Kenya. His older brother

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had already settled in Kenya by that time. The reason

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why we went to East Africa was because there was

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a British colony and when my parents were born, they

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were under the British rule in India, so everybody was

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born a British citizen so they could travel to a

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British colony. So that's how my dad ended up in Kenya.

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Now all of East Africa was British colonies, Uganda, Kenya,

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in Tanzania, and my mother was in Uganda and she

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came over only when she was five years old to

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be with her parents. And so my dad and mom

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had arranged marriage Okay, ended up settling in Kenya.

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Okay, but I was both were originally from India.

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up really in Africa.

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Okay, okay, So then you were going, how did they

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meet that would be interested in hearing that it's more of.

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An arranged marriage. They you know, there were not that

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many Indian families around, and so by word of mouth

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knowing that there are certain people around, somebody is of

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a marrying age because at that time, once you reached

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the age of seventeen or eighteen, you know, the women

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were married off.

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Father was so progressive that when he went to meet

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my mom, she was in her final year of high school,

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said he was not going to marry till she graduated

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from high school, and he let her finish high school

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and then they got married. Oh mom was very young mother.

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She had my twin sisters and me before the age

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of twenty one. So she's more like a friend now.

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She In fact, she'll turned ninety this December, and there

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having a huge celebration for her next Saturday for her

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ninetieth birthday.

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Oh my gosh, is your dad still with you too?

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Sadly he passed away ten years ago. When I moved

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to Florida Because I practiced in Georgia, but Dad had

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loved this place and wanted to move and live close

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to us with the beach, and sadly he passed away

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six months after we moved. But Mom has been amazing.

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I mean, you know, she only had her high school education,

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She's never driven, she's never opened a check, she's never

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opened any mail, and she chose to live by herself

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in her home and that's where she's been and so

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my sister takes care of her for most of the time.

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She lives a block away from her, and I go

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home and take care of the bills, weeding her back patio,

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getting her shrubs, you know, taking care of the mail,

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taking care of any repairs that need to be done

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in the house. So I see a week to ten days,

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so she has some company with her as well.

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You know, this is fabulous because this show is senior

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success stories, and I'm so proud I turned eighty one

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this last year.

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And eighty one and then meeting a.

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Success story who's turned ninety that's incredible.

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And then on top of.

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It all, I've got a very very early Christmas card

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from a friend and worked with him through the years,

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and he is going to be one hundred and two.

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Go figure, go figure.

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Okay, So your parents, okay, So what prompted them to

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come to America.

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My father had always wanted to immigrate to America. At

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that time, they were allowing professionals to come over, and

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he was an accountant. And so when in Africa, you

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can go to the universities after high school, but the

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degree is not recognized all over the world. So what

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happens is that once we finish high school, you can

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either go to England because we were British citizens, or

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you know, some kids went to India for further education.

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But my father, since I and my sisters were in

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England in the universities, that came over from Africa. But

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he really didn't like the weather. He didn't like the cold,

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clammy drizzley whether off London, and so he had always

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wanted to come over to America, and we actually had

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green card visas to come over, but Dad kind of

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held back a couple of years because we were all

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settled in and studying in England. When I was halfway

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through med school and my sisters had already finished their

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pharmacy school and their pedetary school, they all moved over

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to America, and I told Dad that I would visit

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every summer and then I would come over once I

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finished medical school. And so I stayed on an extra

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year to do my housemanship because to register as a

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physician in England you have to do an extra year.

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And so I finished med school, I did my houseman year,

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and then I came over at twenty six.

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Wow. Now, okay, so you're all very professional women, very

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accomplished women, dare I asked, did you have arranged marriages

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in your futures?

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Well, both my sisters had arranged marriages. Oh really, I

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I have a funny story because I was very, very

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confident at the age of eighteen. Once I finished high

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school and finished my two years of pre university, I

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did not want to be a physician. I said, I'm

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going to be a dentist. I can be at top

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of my profession in six years. I don't have to

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go through all for med school and residency and all that.

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So I applied to the Dental School of London and

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got in, but I had to wait out a year

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because I couldn't get any assistance from the government for

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the schooling till I had been in the country three years,

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and so I decided to just go back to school.

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And I loved languages, so I said, I'll take French

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and German, and I had already had Latin, and so

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I decided to do that for the year. Well, I

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had a boyfriend in high school and I had pushed

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him to go into medical school because that's what he

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wanted to do. So he went to Saint Andrew's school.

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So of course after going there, he couldn't live without

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me and wanted me to come and visit. And so, oh,

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I was very bad. I told I ran off for

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a week. I told my parents I was visiting my

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sister and went to s Andrews to see him for

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a week. Well, during that week, I went and saw

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the dean of the medical school, and kids caught. He

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offered me a position for medical school for the following year.

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Oh kay, I would.

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Believe that this is how I got into medical school

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because I already had my grades to get into dental

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school and so I didn't need anything extra to get

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into medical school. And so he said, well, I'll offer

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you a place for next year.

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So then love conquers all.

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I would love to have heard the conversation when you

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broke that to your parents.

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I know you know what. I never told mom and

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dad how I got into medical school. I just said

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I applied and I got in.

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So is the happy ending to this story as you've

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married another doctor.

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Well, I was sad because I and maybe that's you

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know that'll come up in the conversation. But he was

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an only child. We always talked about having a cricket

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team for children. We wanted lots of children. Well, sadly,

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I had an ectopic pregnancy. Oh and being a physician,

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I went to the doctors and I said, I got

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pain in my right side. You know you need to

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take a look at that and make sure that it's

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not an ectopic pregnancy. They did a tell you know,

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ultra sile and said no, no, it's just a sis.

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Don't worry about it. Well, ten days later I woke

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up in the morning with one and a half leads

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of blood in my paraneum. And to make long story short,

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I had a lot of infertility issues when I went

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through all my residency at Medical College of Georgia. We

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tried every way we could and there was no way

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I could get pregnant, and so I was the only

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female psychiatrist in that area for fifteen years, and he

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was the only neurologist in that area, and so both

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of us had incredibly busy private practices, and there comes

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a time when you're not taking care of each other,

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and we became more like a brother and sister, and

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so we are still the best of friends. I ended

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strangely looks just like her, and so he got help

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in raising the five children. So I think destiny plays

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a big part in how your life is going to go,

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be a physician because whenever anybody asked what are you

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are you going to be when you grow up? I'm

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going to be a doctor. Then I fought so hard

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about it and said, no, I'm going to be a dentist.

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I'm not going to be a doctor. Well you end

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up being a doctor. You know, you don't have children,

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my husband and I we've been married fifty four years now,

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destiny and bring people together and also can take them apart,

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sadly sometimes through death or situations. But I'm a true

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believer in destiny, and I think you were meant to

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Also, could you share your book? Could you show us

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your book and tell our listeners where they can get

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your book too.

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Okay, my books are available on Amazon. This is the

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first one that I wrote. It was titled US Unhinged

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and this big book is available on Kindle. The reason

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why I had to split it up into two because

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it was too big for a first time writer. And

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so my book one in fact is US Unhinged, Book one,

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and the second book is called US Unhinged. It was

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just a play on words US meaning the first book

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is all about relationships. And I started writing about it

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because of Me Too movement, and I wanted to put

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the information out there, both from the male and the

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female perspective, because I did get a little frustrated with

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women jumping on the bandwagon and saying me to me too,

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and I wanted people to really understand, and having treated

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so many women in my practice that I felt like

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I was qualified to give some opinions, give some information,

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and also what they can do instead of ruining the

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reputations of certain men after fifty years of the incident

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having happened. Let's put it that way. And you know,

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we talk a lot about false memories, something that we

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have been caring from our childhood, we project onto other

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people and how that influences our way of thinking or

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way of looking, and false accusations can ruin somebody's whole life.

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And then the other thing I also wanted to talk

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about in US Unhinge was also relationships, Like I mentioned

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that I and my Excess have remained incredibly good friends,

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and how I could never understand when people say they

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love each other, they care about each other, and then

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they get a divorce and then you know, it's full

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scale hatred. And I just wanted people to understand that

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there are alternatives. How you were responsible for how you feel,

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how you are responsible for what you put into the relationship.

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So I talked a lot about emotions, how the different

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neurons in your brain from a medical point of view,

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how they dictate whether you feel sad, happy, you know, lonely,

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what kind of things come up, and how to deal

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with all these issues. So that was the US n hinge,

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and then the US.

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I was just going to say that brilliant titles, whether

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it's US or using to play on the word US. Yeah,

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The US engine. Basically, like you mentioned about the school

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mass shootings, you know, the and the abortion issues were

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beginning to come up, because in twenty two that's when

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ro versus weight got reversed and I was horrified. And

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you know, living in America, I could have never expected

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this kind of freedom to be taken away from women,

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and especially like The reason why I share about having

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their topic pregnancy and why this is so important, because

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what's happening now is that the doctors are so scared

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to touch the women, and we're hear in case after

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case of women not being treated adequately, doctors being scared

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to deal with these emergencies because of the fear of retaliation,

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not having access to obstetutions. Because really, where the states

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have put in all these restrictions, you won't believe there's

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going to be a thirty three percent less of obstruitions

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actually practicing in those states because they don't want to

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deal with you know, like in Texas. I mean, you know,

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anybody can what they call sue I neighbor law, you know,

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ten thousand dollars for anybody providing care or helping or

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the woman herself trying to get an amotion. Oklahoma's even worse.

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hundred thousand. You know, there are other states which they

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can go after the doctor for four years and find

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twenty thousand dollars. I mean unrelievable with laws that the

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states have passed, and it you know, for me, I

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could have died if I did not have access to

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care that I got talking. So that is why I

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am so passionate about women's rights and what you can

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do with your body. And later on, hopefully we'll talk

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about some statistics on you know, how much the maternity

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mortality rate has gone up, how much the infant mortality

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rate has gone up, and all seasons for a while.

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law that have taken place in this land of freedom.

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a young girl to go to an all girls Catholic school,

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and it was an incredible experience for me because having

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all girls, we didn't have to compete with boys or

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you know, and it kind of set us up to

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like we ran the show. We did the student console,

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we organized everything, we were in charge of our school lives.

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my dear friends, we're die hard feminists just from the experience,

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our educational experience, and had we gone to a co

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ed school, we might not have felt so confident about

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our lives. Devastating this I was devastated because I was

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hoping once in my lifetime I would see women become

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our president and that did not happen. What chances are

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there now? Not very many chances of a woman actually

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getting to the presidency, just because the system is so biased, Yes, biased, Yeah, absolutely,

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and it's been depressing. So I'm sure a lot of

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your patients are coming to you and talking about that

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these days, aren't they.

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basically what I'm hearing is that, you know, they want

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me to reach out and talk about how it is

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affecting women, how it is affecting because my concern is

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that the pro choice people or pro life people, they're

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only looking at the unborn baby, the few cells, and

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especially since a lot of the abortion bands are within

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six weeks, the women don't even know they're pregnant. It's

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only a few cells, it's less than a peanut size. Sadly,

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they're not looking at the woman that's in front of them.

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They're not looking at the young girl that got raped

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or had an ancestral relationship, or even sex trafficking the

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way they got pregnant. They're not looking at the woman

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who has raised two or three children safely and you know,

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in a loving environment, and they just cannot afford to

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have a fourth or a fifth child. You're not looking

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at those cases at all. And that is what is

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so heartbreaking, is how can you look at a woman

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right in front of you, who is living, who is

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making decisions what is best for her and her body,

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and you're making decisions based on your own reality of

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what is right and wrong. You're not putting yourself in

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those people's shoes. And that's what's so sad.

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and that gave me such great hope that women were

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finally coming out in the open. They were kindly, finally

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saying telling the story, sharing their traumas, and sharing their

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hopes finally getting some of these issues resolved. And it

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seems I just feel depressed ause I think we're just

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going backwards.

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Well we have, we have taken a big step backwards

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with this election, and that's what's so said. I was,

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you know, I was so enthusiastic election that I really

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felt like majority of Americans are kind hearted, respectful people.

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That's what I have met in my forty years of

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living in America, I have never felt like I was

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treated as a foreigner or an immigrant or anything like that.

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And women's rights and women are just so confident, they're

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so you know, they are more girls going to college,

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they are more girls graduating from college. But the men

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took it so wrong. You know, women have been struggling

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for centuries to not be a second class citizen. Let's

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face it, it's all over the world, and even in America,

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it's the men that are making decisions for women because

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there are so few women in the Congress and in

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the House of Resisentatives that are making decisions what is

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in the best welfare for women? And here even in

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America that they make decisions and women sadly have gone

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along with this in this election and that you know,

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every family has a daughter, a wife, a girl, friend,

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a mother, and how can they not vote for what's

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best for that woman.

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It's a puzzlements puzzlement.

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At this time, you know, we're going to take a

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break and I'm actually going to share my book that's

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in the process of coming out is Kindle e book

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and paper book all this week that I'm very excited about.

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And after we.

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Talk about my book.

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I'm going to give you my theory about how to

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end war.

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Will be right back, Okayducing, Living and Dying without Whining.

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You and I was going to share with Hille and

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my theory on how to end war.

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I think we could end all wars in the world

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if we had a house of.

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Representatives made up of only mothers. Now, I'm not talking

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about having to be a natural mother. I'm talking about stepmothers.

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I'm talking about adopted I'm talking about women who basically

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take care and raise children. All over the Senate would

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be only grandmothers. Now, when these war issues come up,

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if you have a bunch of mothers and grandmothers determining

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the fate of their children, grandchildren, there won't be any

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war war that'll be that there will be no way

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that we'll have another war. I think war is something

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that happens to make rich men richer.

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Absolutely, that's my theory.

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Well, if you even look at the pandemic the countries.

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first started writing, the pandemic had just come about, and

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so I wrote a lot about what to expect as

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far as mental health issues and what kind of problems

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to anticipate during the pandemic. Then in my second book,

470
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:41.680
The US Fracture, which was the last book, the vaccinations

471
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:44.599
had come out, and I talked a lot about the

472
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:47.319
effects of the vaccinations and what the scientists are saying,

473
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:50.960
what the anti vaxinas are reporting, what kind of problems,

474
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:55.359
the long COVID problems, etc. But during that research I

475
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:58.960
also looked at all the countries who had female prime

476
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:04.160
ministers ordence, and do you know that every single country

477
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:09.519
that had a female president or prime minister fared better

478
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:14.079
with their COVID response than did the male countries. A

479
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:17.400
lot of the European countries, which was very interesting that

480
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:21.279
Sweden was one that had a male prime minister and

481
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:25.160
their country did not fare well. New Zealand did extremely

482
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:28.640
well with having the female prime minister there, and a

483
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:34.400
lot of it was due to empathy, understanding, listening, and

484
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:40.440
basically taking care of the people. Males don't have that

485
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:47.119
inherent qualities nurturing nurturing exactly. And I think that's what

486
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:52.319
your theory is based on, is that women have that

487
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:59.240
instinct of caretaking and men have that instinct of fighting

488
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:03.000
and being a aggressive and taking care of the family

489
00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:08.559
in another manner. You're right that it's more the warmongers

490
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:11.720
or the people that want to make more money from

491
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:18.599
ammunitions or tanks or you know, war merchandise. They want

492
00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:23.319
to keep these wars going. Sadly, your theory would work,

493
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:25.640
but it would have to be across the world.

494
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.039
And you know, I actually did some research on this

495
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:36.680
because I love writing conspiracy books. They're over seventy countries

496
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:45.279
already in our world that have had women prime ministers rulers.

497
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:49.799
I mean, gosh darn, look at the British Empire. Some

498
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:52.480
pretty savvy women who have handled.

499
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:56.960
That Elizabeth Room for how many years?

500
00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:00.200
And you know that's why I was so disappointed it

501
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:05.920
because I do that our country could experience that in

502
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:09.760
doing so, I think we would see so much of

503
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:15.480
what is missing as far as empathy and compassion.

504
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:19.360
And taking care of everybody, not the super rich, and

505
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.039
not only the people that make the most noise. Because

506
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:25.760
that's what's happening now, is that the squeaky wheel is

507
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:27.079
the one that's getting out there.

508
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:27.960
M M.

509
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:34.519
Yeah, it's been a very difficult time for the entire country. Now,

510
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:37.719
let me look at your perspective. You said as an

511
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:44.880
immigrant that you did not face any prejudice or obstacles,

512
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:50.079
that you were just accepted. Why do you think it's

513
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:51.800
changing so dramatically.

514
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:55.559
Well, you know, if I have one criticism about the

515
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:59.519
Biden administration is that they really did let a lot

516
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:04.679
of image runs into the country illegally. And when my

517
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.360
father came over, like I said, he was an accountant,

518
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:11.719
he had come over as a professional. All of us

519
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:16.719
came in legally. We came in and got integrated into

520
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:22.440
the community. We learned to speak English. That's a crazy

521
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.199
thing to say, because I grew up speaking English since

522
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:30.039
I grew up with English teaching teachers, so I grew

523
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:35.000
up with Indian languages and English speaking. But I think

524
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:38.840
the reason why Indians do well in this country is

525
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:44.679
because we integrate, we get involved. I hate to break

526
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:50.000
down different cultures, but Muslims have a hard time integrating.

527
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:55.920
You know, they're more into their own way, they dress,

528
00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:59.079
the way they talk. The Hispanics are similar, you know,

529
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:01.480
they come in and they only talk a lot of

530
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:06.440
them just know how to speak Spanish. They even in Florida,

531
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:08.679
it's so difficult for me to sometimes go into the

532
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:12.000
stores because I wonder, am I in America or am

533
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.679
I in one of the Spanish countries because they only

534
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:20.719
have literature in Spanish. The staff only speaks Spanish, and

535
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:26.840
it's very difficult to come to realization. But integration and

536
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:32.800
getting involved with your community, plus also contributing. I think

537
00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:36.360
that's the biggest part of and I'm not saying that

538
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:39.840
the immigrants known contribute because I really feel like there

539
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:43.400
is such a lack of manpower in this country. And

540
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:46.599
you know, when Biden took over, there were and especially

541
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:49.199
after the pandemic, I mean there were eleven million jobs

542
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:52.119
that were not fulfilled. Okay, you know they complain about

543
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:56.960
the immigrants taking over their jobs, but they're not willing

544
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:00.559
to go out into the fields and pick seasonal produce.

545
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:05.400
And work on the rooftops and work hard in the yards.

546
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:08.599
I mean, who do you see working out on the roads,

547
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:12.559
on the rooftops, in their gardens. They are all immigrants.

548
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:19.320
And so you cannot chind saying that immigrants only take. No.

549
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.639
They contribute a lot to the American economy too. But

550
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:26.840
I think that integration, and I think that was one

551
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:29.159
of the main reasons. One I spoke good English so

552
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:32.800
people could understand my English. The other reason was that

553
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:37.480
I was willing to really be involved with the people,

554
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:41.760
give back a lot, and contribute. I think those are

555
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:45.480
very important things for immigrants to understand. In the company,

556
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:48.280
you're not only just taking. And I think that the

557
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:54.679
anger has risen from people rightly or wrongly believing and

558
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:58.599
the Republicans putting out all these wrong messages saying that

559
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.719
the money that should be going to the people is

560
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:03.119
going to the immigrants, that they're getting social Security, they're

561
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:06.119
getting Medicare. How can they get social security in Medicare

562
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:09.159
when the Americans ourselves have to wait till we are

563
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:13.360
sixty five. We have to contribute so much to the

564
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:17.079
Medicare fund and Social Security to get anything back. But

565
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:23.000
people just want to listen to this false nerve or messages,

566
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:30.440
and like I said, sadly, the American people, I hate

567
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:34.320
to say, because of social media, they only look at headlines,

568
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:38.800
you know, they don't actually dwell into looking at the information.

569
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:42.360
Is it right, is it wrong? Does this make sense?

570
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:45.920
They just, you know, whatever inflames them, they're going to

571
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:48.199
attach to it. And I think that was the main

572
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:53.280
reason why with Trump and all the people around him

573
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:56.360
put out all this false information which people just grabbed

574
00:38:56.400 --> 00:39:00.159
and felt like, you know, he was telling that this

575
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:02.960
is exactly what's happening, and that's not what was happening.

576
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:03.679
Yeah.

577
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:08.159
Well, I just am terrified to think of what our

578
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:13.000
country is going to be like with the mass deportation

579
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:15.679
approach to this problem.

580
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:19.000
We all agree it was a big problem.

581
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:22.039
They're already the farmers are saying that they're going to

582
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.760
have massive losses because they're not going to have people

583
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:28.519
to work in the fields. They're not going to have people,

584
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:31.079
so much produce is going to go to waste. Farmers

585
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:33.360
are scared to death about this happening.

586
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:37.920
Right right well, And as far as the economy, that's

587
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:39.920
going to take a real big hit.

588
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:42.800
It is the morale.

589
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:48.679
Of the country when you're deporting people. And I know

590
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:52.239
we all say the illegals, we don't want them, But

591
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:55.719
then the part of the problem is most of their

592
00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:58.960
families are legal by now, most a lot of their

593
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:03.280
families have been born here, and I worry are those

594
00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:04.639
people going to be deported?

595
00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:05.639
We don't know.

596
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:09.119
Well, that's what he's saying, that he's going to take

597
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:13.519
away the rights of Americans that have been born in America.

598
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:16.239
They are not you know, he's going to even deport them.

599
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:20.320
And during his first time, he's split up so many

600
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:24.599
families and children. And you know, if these children haven't

601
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:28.000
all of them haven't even been reconciled with their parents.

602
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.559
I cannot even imagine the chaos that's going to occur.

603
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:34.760
And you know, he's talking about using military to do that.

604
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:37.760
How are the military people going to feel having to

605
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:41.840
go around and do this. I bet you you know,

606
00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:51.800
there's a good percentage of military people that are.

607
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:49.480
Yeah, you know.

608
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:54.760
And then let's just address before this wonderful interview podcast

609
00:40:54.880 --> 00:41:02.280
visitors over the problem with the gun violence, the school shootings.

610
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:07.199
As we talked about, everyone knows when they heard about it,

611
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:10.119
their first one, it was just devastating, and then it

612
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:14.199
just kept growing and growing and growing, and now these

613
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:18.599
assault rifles. You know, there's a place and a time

614
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:22.760
for an assault rifle. God knows, my husband served in Vietnam.

615
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:27.159
It's two purple hearts. We know all about what weapons

616
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:31.400
of war are for and what they can do, and

617
00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:35.920
they're not for children, and they're not for young people

618
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:38.800
to go and use indiscriminately.

619
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:43.199
Right. Yeah, it's a problem I have written at length about,

620
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:47.239
you know, why it is so detrimental why the Supreme

621
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:52.119
Court ruled for these little gizmos to be put into

622
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:55.599
the weapons, to make it an assault weapon and make

623
00:41:55.639 --> 00:42:00.000
it legal. You know, I have no understanding about why

624
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:03.519
the Supreme Court judges are even ruling the way they are,

625
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:08.519
because they have really not only with rovers his way,

626
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:11.800
but with these salt type weapons too, that they have

627
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:18.960
made two very very bad decisions. And the only hope

628
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:21.239
that I'm seeing now is that the parents are being

629
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:24.320
held responsible for what they're buying for the kids. And

630
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:27.960
I think that's a good step because it's the parents

631
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:35.000
ultimately who should know that. It's like when my spouse's son,

632
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.760
who is an avid gun collector and that and he

633
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:41.920
had young children, well I gave him money, and I said,

634
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:44.760
buy you a big safe because I want all your

635
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.400
weapons locked away in there. I said, you know, kids

636
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:50.239
are very curious by nature, and I said, I don't

637
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.519
need your weapons to be lying around or whatever. But

638
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:58.320
it's very sad that the parents don't use better common sense,

639
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:01.559
especially in this last couple of shootings where they knew

640
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:05.639
that the child was having problems at school, he had

641
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:09.280
anger issues. It was the same with Parkland shooting. You

642
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:13.599
know that they ended up having letting him having access.

643
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:17.119
Whether it's just going into a cabinet or whatever, it

644
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:20.800
doesn't matter. They should never have access to these kind

645
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:24.199
of weapons. Like you said, there's no reason for anybody

646
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:27.199
to have assault type weapons.

647
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:31.519
You know, another another thing I always refer back to

648
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:38.079
when I'm writing about conspiracies, talking about or crimes, follow

649
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:42.920
the money. And when we're talking about the assault weapons,

650
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:48.960
the money trail is there and les directly from.

651
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:50.840
The NRA to.

652
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:56.760
The people, directly to the Congress.

653
00:43:56.800 --> 00:44:00.400
Not only to the Congress, but also the lobby beasts.

654
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:07.320
You know, they are basically funding what decisions the lawmakers

655
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:09.840
are making. See, this is why it really frustrates me

656
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:13.559
that the people elect these people and these people are

657
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:17.039
not taking care of the Americans. They're making decisions because

658
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:20.960
of the money that they're getting. Everything boils down sadly

659
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:23.960
to money, greed and power.

660
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:25.679
Absolutely, you know.

661
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:28.440
I know, and you know.

662
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:33.119
And as far as the Second Amendment, we have a gun,

663
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:35.920
I understand everyone can have a gun.

664
00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:39.719
Be responsible. You do not need an.

665
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:44.280
Assaultble weapons, right, you don't need something that kills fifty people,

666
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:47.800
you know, second right in seconds.

667
00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:53.199
Yeah, we're so on the same page about so many things.

668
00:44:53.559 --> 00:45:03.159
What can we share with listeners positive way, especially for

669
00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:04.400
our women listeners?

670
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:07.079
You any thoughts that would help.

671
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:12.519
You know, I get grounded when I talk to my mother.

672
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:15.880
She's nineteen years old, and like I said, I may

673
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:19.639
be a physician and I am sixty eight years old,

674
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:23.760
but I love talking to her and listening to her wisdom.

675
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:28.679
My thing is, please reach out and put your cell

676
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:34.280
phones down, put your social media way, connect with the

677
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:37.960
women in your life. Learn because one of the things

678
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:41.079
that I talked about in the first book, the us

679
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:45.639
N Hinge, was that in some ways women and men.

680
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:49.320
I think the men got angry because they're losing their identity.

681
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:53.480
Women are impinging on their careers, on their schooling. You

682
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:57.039
know that they were used to being the head, being

683
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:01.840
the main breadwinner, but now have conversations that there is

684
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:05.639
a lot of equality. Just because the woman earns more

685
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:10.880
or is more educated does not mean that she doesn't

686
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:14.800
want a partner that's going to share things with her.

687
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:19.000
You know, let's work on this as a couple. Let's

688
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:23.239
let's do things together. And I think it's the same

689
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:26.119
thing that what you want to learn from your mothers

690
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:30.599
and your grandmothers. They have a lot of wisdom, and

691
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:34.840
talk to them. I think that they have so many

692
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:39.679
important messages to give you. It's like I tell the girls,

693
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:42.840
you know, you need to learn to sew, you need

694
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:46.559
to learn to cook, You need to maintain some of

695
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:51.199
these feminine qualities. Don't just just because I'm a physician,

696
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:54.519
I'm into school. You know, I'm the main breadwinner, but

697
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:58.039
I still cook at dinner every night. When a button

698
00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:00.480
comes off the shirt or shorts, you know, I'm the

699
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:04.679
one that shows it back on. My mother has given

700
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:09.679
us so many good examples of how to be a

701
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:13.880
really good caregiver and a caretaker. My father, on the

702
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:19.239
other hand, gave us a lot of good information about

703
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:22.719
how to get ahead in life, how to be have

704
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:26.519
good education, and that's what I tell the girls that

705
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:31.480
you know, forge a career for yourself, be self confident.

706
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:36.119
And I talk a lot about parenting because I really

707
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:39.559
think that building confident children. And that's why I give

708
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:42.599
my example of how I got into medical school. It's

709
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.800
all about confidence and how you come across. And so

710
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:51.559
parents these days are not letting children overcome obstacles. They

711
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:55.400
want to take care of everything. Got to build confident children.

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Yes, I want to have you back because I want

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to talk to you. I want to do a show

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about the helicopter parents. And also I have never heard

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the term snow plowing, so definitely I'll have you back.

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And thank you so much visiting with us today. And

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I hope that my listeners, I hope you've all enjoyed

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Sheila and our time together. We have tried to be

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informative and we've been tried to be inspiring. I hope

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we haven't been too too depressing. Thank you for entering

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the no Wine Zone, and please share our stories and

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our show with everyone you know. Remember, you need to

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stop whining and then you need to start smiling. And

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if that doesn't work, then you need to start eating chocolate, lots.

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And lots of chalk.

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Take care and stay safe and be sure to glitter

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and glow with us at Glitter Granny. Thank you, Shela.

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Until we meet again, take care you.

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Thank you so much.

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We want to thank you for listening to January Jones

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sharing success stories. Always remember miss Jones' personal mantra, if

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you can think it, you can do it. That's what

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all of our guests have done with their lives, and

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so can you. You are the ultimate success coach in

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your own life. All you need to do will be

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to start sharing your own story with your family and friends.

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We hope that our guest stories will encourage you to

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explore an equation in your future that will combine your

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creativity plus connecting with others will enable you to be

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successful too. Always remembered, your passion plus your purpose will

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equal prosperity as you explore the wonderful world of January

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Jones

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Dagata