January Jones sharing Book with a Big Idea on Power of Listening by Author Sara Ting

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Radio. Who is January Jones.
She is not a young, beautiful,

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talented actress on Madman. She is
not an older, gorgeous exotic dancer from

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The Johnny Carson Show. She is
an author and she wrote Thou Show Not

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Why the Eleventh Commandment that rates number
one at Amazon dot com. She is

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a reality TV golf personality with World
High Stakes Golf televised on hd Net.

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She is a hugehumorist and why knowlogist
expert. She is your featured host today

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on January Jones sharing success stories.
So sit back, relax, and get

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ready to laugh and listen to Ms
Jones with her eclectic roster of guests as

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you learn life's lessons. These stories
plus sharing equal success. Welcome and remember

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beware because you are entering the no
whining world of January Jones. Hello,

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Hello everyone. I have hope you're
having a glittery and glowing day. I'm

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January Jones and I'd like to welcome
you to our podcast today. I'm so

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excited because, as you can see, I have my glittering yellow hat,

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I have my glitter cane, my
glitter watch, my glittering and glitter Granny

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has opened up. My website is
now available at Amazon and on the internet

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glittergranny dot com. You can start
shopping there and subscribing. I'll tell you

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more about it later. Now,
for my listeners, let me ask you

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a question. Have you ever signed
up for a training course anywhere you know,

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on the internet or at a school, And when someone says something is

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five minutes of training, what do
you think right away? Are you thinking

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it might be a gimmick of some
sort? Well, are you ready to

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listen to some new interesting information?
Tell me? Have you ever heard about

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a book by the name of small
book with a big idea the power of

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listening in a world of differences?
Yes? If you can answer yes or

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maybe to any these questions, then
you are in the right place. And

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I'd like to welcome you to January
Jones sharing senior success stories. Yes,

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you heard that right, senior.
Now it's time rest relaxed. Go,

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get some cheese, get some crackers. Oh, get a glass of wine,

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iced tea, whatever. Now,
let me tell you a little bit

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about our guest today. She was
born in nineteen fifty, so that makes

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her a senior. In my opinion, that makes her a young senior.

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She is a living testament to the
transformation power of poetry and the resilience of

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the human spirit. She is a
Chinese American and in her lifetime she has

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dealt with anorexia and also with cancer. She's not just an author, but

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she is a visionary, a beacon
of light, and an educator who embodies

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all the stories she tells. She
is a graduate of Boston College. And

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it's my pleasure to welcome to our
podcast today, Sarah Ting. Hi,

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Sarah, how are you doing today? Dear Hi Jenruy, thank you so

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much. And just a couple of
minor correction. It's small book, five

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minute training to empower you and transform
the world. Oh five minute training.

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Well, that's that's what we're that's
what we're going to be talking about.

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Five minute training. I don't think
anyone has trained me in five minutes to

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do any Yes. And also it
reached my alma man of Boston University.

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That's wonderful. Now let's start with
your background. Where we raised, who

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were your mentors. Tell us a
bit about how your success story began.

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Sure. Well, so I was
raised in New York City, and I

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grew up at a time when there
were the Asian population was very, very

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small in America. The American population
at the time was about one hundred and

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fifty two million for the entire country, okay, and the Asian American population

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for the entire country was a little
bit over three hundred and thirty thousand okay,

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for the entire life. So many
many times I kind of experienced being

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the only one, like thinking and
going back reflecting. In elementary school,

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out of six hundred students, my
sister and I were the only Asian female

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students. Oh my god. Wow. Yeah, So I'm used to I'm

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used to being the only one.
And I do remember this is kind of

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funny. I do remember this one
question a student asked me. And I

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was about maybe ten or eleven years
old, and the student asked me,

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could I smile when I laughed?
Oh? Could I see? I'm sorry,

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could I see when I laughed?
Because my aunt because my eyes are

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planted right, And when I laughed
it turned into threats, you see when

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you left. That's a great question. I love that, my child,

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but it was profound for me because
I never forgot that question right. It

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made me realize at the tender age
of ten or eleven. Well, I

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guess I'm really different. So you
were in New York City, yes,

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and the Chinese population we lived on
the West coast for so long in California,

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and in the California area there's a
much larger Asian population. But I

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guess in New York you were really
Uh, you stood out in the crowd,

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didn't you. Well, this was, you know, in Queens,

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so not Manhattan and Queens. And
this again, it was at a time

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when the Asian population for the entire
country was very small. So we're talking

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about the entire country. And it's
true what you said January on the West

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Coast, it's true that the Asian
population was probably larger than where I was

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growing up in New York. And
you know, historically, if you think

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about it, there was the Chinese
Exclusion Law in eighteen eighty two, okay,

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and that Chinese Exclusion Law was specifically
designed to limit the number of Asian

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Chinese American coming into the country because
at the time it was they were building

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the Transatlantic Railroad across the country,
and I know about that. Chinese America

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were willing to work much, much
cheaper labor, and so there was the

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issue of money. And then the
Irish they felt it was like taking jobs

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away from them, so they created
this law called the Chinese Exclusion Law too.

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Me too. And you know what
it's unfortunate is because we don't have

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a national history curriculum where everybody has
a common understanding of our history. There's

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some people who've never heard about the
Triangical Exclusion Law, and some people did,

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and that is why we have the
challenges we have. And there's some

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people don't even know about the Japanese
internment camp. Oh my gosh, yes,

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yes, And I have friends that
in California that they experienced that and

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so they shared their stories with me. And it's so sad that people don't

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know about it. I mean,
heck, people are still trying to find

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out about the Civil War. And
then now we have all this discussion,

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this negative discussion about immigrants, which
I just find it appalling. And yes,

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your point is well taken. People
are uneducated. Yeah, so it's

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unfortunate that we don't have a national
curriculum, a common understanding of the history

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of this country. And no country
is free of its challenges with any kind

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of biases and prejudice. Every country
has its particular brand. And when I

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do my training, my DEI training, I try and help people understand no

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one is a terrible person for having
a bias or prejudice. They learned it.

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I mean, babies are not born
into the world with prejudice and biases.

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They learn them. And so we
really need to kind of reframe this

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whole issue. And I'm so sorry
my camera keeps kind of tilting here on

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me, but we need to reframe
it. We need to reframe it and

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realize that in order to grow as
a person personally and professionally, we just

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all need to have to work on
ourselves and overcoming our biases. And there's

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a really wonderful quote by Madam Curi
who she's only one of five people who

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won the Nobel Prize and Science twice. Can you imagine, I know that's

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amazing. Can you imagine the gender
biases she must have went through as a

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woman in the field of science.
So I want to share this quote with

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you because I think it's such a
simple but right on the mark quote.

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She said, you cannot hope to
build a better world without improving the individual

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too. That in each of us, let's work on our own improvement.

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So think about it here. She
is a woman in the field of science,

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and she probably went through a lot
of gender biases. But she didn't

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talk about creating a new policy or
new law because she realized, well,

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it's people who create the policies and
laws, and so if the people who

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create these policies and laws don't kind
of do the work on themselves, you

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could easily put a bias in the
policy of the law, Oh absolutely,

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which is something that would Yes,
you know, when we talk about that,

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I always go back to that beloved
musical South Pacific and the incredible song

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where they say you have to be
tall, and I hear that it brings

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tears to my eyes. Because it
is just so true. It's such a

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beautiful song, and I wish they
would. I wish it could be played

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every day for all of the people
out there who haven't been taught properly.

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I couldn't agree with you more in
January, that's such a beautiful song.

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You are right on the mark.
I couldn't agree with you more. It's

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a beautiful song to help us all
realize we're taught prejdice and bides. It's

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not natural. We are taught it. Yeah, I know it's natural,

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Jenny. You know what's natural,
well, Sunshine and all of us,

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that's natural. Son hat there.
Yeah, And you know, you look

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at these beautiful children that come into
the world that we love and embrace and

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hold to our hearts, and they're
so sweet, they're so innocent. They

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have no hatred, they have no
bigotry. They're just pure. And you

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just wish that somehow we could maintain
that, keep that for them to us.

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Now, just a little bit about
your parents. What was it like

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for your parents, and what was
it like growing up? And I assume

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they were born in China, right, right, Both of them were born

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in mainland China, and they were
they were newly wits when they came to

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America and really waits and they had
four children the first four years of their

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marriage. Four well we know that
weren't Catholic, but and fortunately with no

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support system, no support system.
So and now remember and they're and they're

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immigrants. So when as I got
older, I could stand and appreciate the

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challenges they must have went through as
Chinese Americans here in America. And so

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it was difficult for them, having
four children and no support. What does

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your father do for a living?
And I know what your mother did,

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she was home here. My father. Yes, So my father was a

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at the time, a diplomat representing
the nationalist Chinese government, and he at

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one point he had to make a
decision to go back to China because the

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government wanted him to go back.
And that time I was about eleven or

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twelve years old, and he made
the decision to stay here in America because

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none of us knew a word of
Chinese. And the reason why we didn't

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is because the tea just told my
parents, don't teach your children Chinese because

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they were afraid it might affect our
English learning English. So they never taught

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us Chinese. So they knew that
if they were to go back, it

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would be such a struggle for us, and so they stayed here for our

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education. And that one decision,
January, change the destiny of my life,

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because clearly, if my father decided
to go back, I probably wouldn't

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be here talking to you. Yeah, And that I can attest to you

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know, my mother came from Poland, and it was interesting if they all

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she and her children all spoke Polish, but the grandchildren we were never allowed,

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for the same reason to learn Polish
or speak Polish, because the thing

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here was we had to fit in. We had to simulate, Oh my

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gosh, it's so much fun to
talk to you. We're going to take

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a break right now. And you're
not minor. But this is for people

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who whine, or if you know
someone who whines. Lately, there is

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a whining epidemic in our world.
People are even whining about whining. Are

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you sick and tired of listening to
everyone whining all the time? So was

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January Jones, the author of Thou
Shalt Not Whine, the Eleventh Commandment that

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reached number one at Amazon dot com. Miss Jones based her book on our

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survey of the top ten things that
people whine about at all ages and all

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in your life. Miss Jones is
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Irma Bomback, specializing in housewife huber. With her book being published in Korea

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and China. You can find Doll
Show Not Whine at Amazon dot com.

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Welcome back with my delightful senior guest
today Sarah Ting and Sarah would you share

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with my listeners your website, your
information how they can get your book.

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Sure, well, I actually have
two websites. What is as the Sun

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dot net? So son as she
went at the Sun Sun dot net and

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Sarah ting dot Com. Sarah King
King Okay, wonderful. And I was

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reading the background and doing research on
you before the show and there's this mention

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of this incredible brok that that's another
thing that totally changed your life too,

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didn't it. It certainly did,
January. That's why I wrote the book.

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It's inspired the book and all the
work I've been doing for the last

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thirty years. Okay or our listeners, could you recite the poem? Sure?

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So it's called the sun poem a
sum It says, are you greater

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than the sun that shines on everyone? The black, brown, yellow,

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red, and white? The sun
does not discriminate. Can you get any

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simpler than that? January? The
sun discriminating? I mean, I'd say

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that poem just tells it like it
is, basically where we're both coming from.

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So once you wrote that poem,
was it published or how to tell

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us how this all germinated, how
you became such a romantic author? Well,

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the poem was written in nineteen seventy
eight, and it was written in

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a personal journal. It was actually
never meant to be public. Oh okay.

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Interesting, And the poem came out
of a journey that I was on

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a spiritual journey to learn about God. And I was one of those people

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I didn't know if God really is
did but I was willing to go on

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this journey and learn about God.
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learn about God is fine in place
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of worship, you would think,
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you would think. And so I
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about God. It's going to find
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is in Boston, and there are
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first place of worship. I'm all
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of the services, I'm hoping someone's
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me something. But nobody says one
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for here? Right? That was
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I am determined to a place of
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I'll go across the river to another
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place across the river and I find
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perfectly divine, absolutely beautiful. And
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the other church that were predominantly white. So now I'm in a predominantly black

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church. M hm. But this
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one seemed a word to me,
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another one. Go back the river
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is mostly elderly people and there are
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oh, this doesn't look like it's
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I left. Then I said to
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outgoing person, like January. I
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I'll go back to Boston. So
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come to this place with about two
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the services. I see this couple
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warm, friendly couple. I'll go
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I introduced myself. I said,
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How many years have you been coming
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good, and I'm hoping I have
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well, my conversation walked away.
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said, I was really feeling very
dejected. And I can even remember what

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I was wearing that day, what
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berey on. My hair fell down
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velvet green coat that tied up the
waist, and maroon boots up to my

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knee. It was a great New
England day, Great New England day.

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The bus came. I stepped onto
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I leaned my head against the window, and then all of a sudden,

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the sun's rays came shining through the
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voice right side speak to me.
Really, the voice said, yep.

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The voice said, I don't just
shine on you, Sarah, I shine

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on everyone. Oh that's when it
was time that shines on everyone. The

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black, brown, yellow, red, and white. The sun does not

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discriminate. I think, January,
now that I have a deeper understanding of

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God. Yes, Holy Spirit,
I think it was the Holy Me or

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Jesus. Why didn't you? I
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I was raised Catholic, and you
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time, and at the at that
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strangers would come in and it would
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No one ever reached out. But
then now they have a ceremony where people

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shake hands with everyone around them,
and I'm thinking, why couldn't we have

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been doing this for years and years
ago? Let me ask you what were

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you? Were? You raised Buddhens? Were actually you know, thank you

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for that question. My parents we
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introduced to churches, but we never
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knew is that, okay, there
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went to church. But did I
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I can't honestly say yes. That's
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too, And at the safe stage
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is non denominational because I have come
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important to love everyone, love every
color, love every three Hey, we're

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all going to go to the same
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if you try to live a good
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And I think it's much simpler than
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there's so many different religions and some
of them actually divide us more than bring

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us together. Yeah. Well,
as you know, through the world,

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most of the big wars have been
caused by religions, and we see that

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now in the Middle East. It's
totally about religion, and that is such

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a sad commentary on our times.
So you did this search when you were

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twenty eight, you had already grau
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married at that time? Did you
have children of all? No, I've

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never done it yet. January,
that special guy hasn't showed up. Maybe

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he'll see you on the show for
sure. You know, there are all

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these young people, they're all going
on websites to start dating and meeting people.

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Maybe you'll have a glitteral g ranny
collection. Wouldn't that be wonderful?

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in God that my life I have
valued every moment of my life. I

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don't any regrets. I feel that
everything that has happened to me in my

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life happened for a reason, and
so for me, it's up to me

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to decide what to do with that
experience and never ever let it hold me

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back or make me feel like a
victim. Everything that happens our life,

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for me, it always happens for
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challenges that maybe create the biggest heartaches
are the opportunities for the biggest growth in

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our life. Yes. Yes,
And this is a message that I was

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given to by my one grandmother,
my Polish grandmother, who immigrated here when

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she was twenty And everything she would
say would be the worst things. You

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know, if you just waited out, they'll turn out to be the best

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things. And it's a cycle.
And it's so true. And it's so

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hard to get that message across to
young people because it seems like when something

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bad happens, they seem to want
it to be the end of the world,

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and little do they know, it's
the beginning for them. You learn,

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you learn from the bad bit of
things. Yeah, that's what we

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will do. Yeah, I agree
with everything you said January. I think

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part of the challenge for the young
people today is, you know, social

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media and this digital world didn't exist
thirty years ago. Now it's like instant

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everything, and so it's conditioning us
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And I have to be mindful to
myself. We have to cultivate patience,

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patients patients and humility. These are
two important qualities. I feel that it's

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important for us to cultivate so that
we can be happy for feelings life,

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especially humility and the patience is really
really important. And then one thing,

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as you grow older, it's very
important to realize that the big thing in

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life is gratitude. A lot of
people forget to be have gratitude for the

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wonderful things they've been giving. Now
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we're going to take a break and
talk about some priceless personalities who have been

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on the show. But when we
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five minute thing because in the opening, I don't think I've ever been able

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to learn anything in five minutes.
So when we come back, we're going

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to discuss that with Sarah Ting.
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some other amazing, priceless personalities who
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Have you ever met someone who was
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to find solutions, people who fearlessly
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have been fortunate to host an internet
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Stories, and it has been my
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guests have shared their stories, their
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polygamy, unemployment, scandal, and
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guests dealing with difficult physical struggles such
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that are beyond traumatic. My guests
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energizing. They have amazed, amused, and even astonished me. I have

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adored getting to meet them and I
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Welcome back with my delightful senior guest, Sarah Tig. Now, this

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book is amazing and I'd like you
to share a little bit about what prompted

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you to write it. Small book
with big ideas. I've been training with

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I want to hear all about you
can help what, who, you can

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train what in five minutes? Right? Well, January, first all,

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thank you so much for having me
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your book. You know, vouch
out do y. I couldn't agree with

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you more. Yeah. So before
I tell you about this book, I

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want to let you know that the
Michigan National Guard ordered two hundred copies.

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That's the National Guard and UNI Lever, which is a global company they sponsored

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a thousand for national conference. You
and I know didn't place these orders because

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they liked the title. No someone
the book. They vetted it before they

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placed their order. Okay, so
you're probably going to be shocked when I

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tell you this book was inspired by
the sun poem Okay, good wonderful hit

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the Sun Home. And So what
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I need to break the hole them
down for them, I need to take

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it word by word, line by
line. Okay, so the five minute

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training I set people up. Before
you take this five minute training, go

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into a quiet place, m hup
your cell phone, and be prepared to

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give your full attention to each word
on the page of this book. Remember

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your cell phone, no noise,
your full attention, and here's the most

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important piece, and be willing to
put your pride and your ego aside.

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Okay, okay, right right,
okay, yeah right, this is going

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to be a challenge, right,
and so break the poem down and the

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first line, are you greater than
the that's the sentence on the first Am

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I greater than the sun? First, I'm not Kane. That shines on

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everyone. Now here's where it gets
challenging. Black word black is on the

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page all by itself. How do
you really feel about black people? Okay?

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Right? The next brown? So
these are just one word on one

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page. Now, no, the
whole thing takes five minutes or less.

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The last line, the last line, the sun does not discriminate. Oh

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that's that's wonderful. You have now
taught me something in five minutes. Well

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I actually knew that before. But
for anyone who's listening, this is very

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powerful message you're putting out there.
Dear, thank you, Jenuine And you

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know what, January, you might
find this hard to believe. I find

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it hard to believe. Let's just
pretend you and I were friends when I

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wrote this poem. We knew each
other. I mean you said in Sarah,

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what does this poem mean? And
I tell you, I tell you

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what it means because I wrote it
right first. For twenty years later I

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called January. Remember that poem you
asked me about. Yeah, yeah,

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I remember, sir. I remember
when I told you that meant back twenty

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five years ago, thirty years ago. Yeah yeah, I remember. Well,

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January, guess what it means more
than what I told you, and

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I didn't realize it at the time. Yeah, what does that tell you?

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Yeah? Yeah, you were I'd
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the unknown spirit that commune actually communicates
with all of us. In my

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opinion, I think if you turn
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you'll get some ap actually get messages
from the other side, not necessarily what

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you want to hear, but probably
what you need to hear. That's my

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experience. How about you. I
love everything what you just said I did

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underscore, especially with what you said, an instrument of delivery. We all

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and you know what I've experienced January, And tell me if you've experienced this,

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so it's true. I wrote a
second book called the power of listening

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in the world of differences. So
here's what I experience when I feel someone

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is genuinely listening to me and fully
present. Yeah, I say things that

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I've never said before, Like it
just comes out of my mouth. Wow,

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I never said that before. Have
you ever experienced that where you talk

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to somebody and they're so present with
you and listen to you that all of

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a sudden something comes out of your
mouth like, Wow, I'm saying that

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for the first time. Yeah,
it is when that connection is made,

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which, by the way I feel
I have with you today, some things

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you don't even have to say because
they're already there. And I think we've

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walked down some same roads, some
of the same paths, And you know,

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it takes a lifetime to realize this, to realize these what we've been

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given. And it's wonderful that you've
chosen to share this with so many people.

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That's amazing. Good work here.
No, what you said again is

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I couldn't agree with you more.
It takes a lifetime. It takes a

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lifetime to first of all, I
think, to know yourself, and I

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think in order for all of us
to continue to grow personally, professionally.

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You have to cultivate self awareness.
You cannot grow if you don't take time

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to reflect on yourself right, both
good and bad. And the thing that

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I think we have you be aware
of is don't beat up on yourself.

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And this is what happens. You
hear people saying, oh, that was

418
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dumb what you did criticizing themselves like
that was the stupidest. And so you

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just have to be mindful of the
things you say to yourself. We have

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to be our own best friend.
You have to know how to be gentle

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and compassionate. And of course,
yes we make mistakes. Those are the

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times when you need to be the
most compassionate with yourself because the world has

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become so impatient with one another because
of the conditioning immediate click, you get

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this, click, you get that
click, click, click. And we

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are in this world where everybody has
the opportunity to create their own little world

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literally literally. And I asked myself, well, when do you get to

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interact with somebody? You go outside
and you see these people wearing ear pods,

428
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Oh, don't if they were earponds. And so I'm saying to myself,

429
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what, so do you only want
to talk to the people that you

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know or think the way you think. Yeah, then how do we grow?

431
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It's amazing when I take my walk
around this beautiful pond and I just

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I don't talk to every single person. I mean, I let this spirit

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with me. I met this one
woman January. She told me she walks

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to work every day and it's an
hour walk. One hour. She walked

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to work every day. And then
I said, this person at the post

436
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office, I go, I met
this woman. He goes, well,

437
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:43.400
a young man does the same thing. He walks to work and it's more

438
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than an hour ago. You're kidding
me, See, I mean, well,

439
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how about talking to talking to people? You know? I hear you

440
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:54.840
because the other day, this is
so good. This is a fun story.

441
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The other day I was in the
parking lot and I backed up,

442
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and even though I had my camera
and all that, I jumped in to

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another car. The lady got out, I got out. We kind of

444
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:13.239
took pictures with our iPhones because that's
what people do these days. Turns out

445
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:21.719
we've now become best friends. We
go out to breakfast with our husbands once

446
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:25.760
a week, and we have Polish
grandmothers. We both are Polish or we

447
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:30.079
thought we were all Polish and we
just had this connection. And you know,

448
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if you just put it out there, it can happen anywhere, absolutely

449
00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:38.440
right. And you know, one
of the reason why I wrote this book

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January is because going back to I
realized that for some people, I just

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really needed to break the poem down
for them and to help them fully,

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fully understand the depth and breath of
it. Because I can almost guarantee you

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a year from now or two years
from now, if you reflected on this

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poem, you might discover something new
for yourself that you didn't realize at the

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time. And so to me,
I remember this interview with an author and

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he was a best selling author like
you, and he said in the interview,

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he said, right, because you
have something to say. Yes,

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So when I write a book,
it's because I feel I have something to

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say that's not being said. And
clearly I know for a fact, because

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I wrote the poem, you will
not find this poem anywhere else in the

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entire world. You will not find
this exercise anywhere else. And to me,

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this book is timeless, universal and
transformative. It consider people for the

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rest of their life. It's not
a trendy book that will be outdated.

464
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Put it this way, the day
in the sun no longer shines, you

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can throw the book away. Well, you know that's why I feel our

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connection is so incredible, because I
was doing the research and I really didn't

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know what the name of the poem
was. You know, I was just

468
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kind of in my mind looking forward
and thinking, and I was getting ready

469
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:13.159
to do the show. And I
have to tell you this, I have

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00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:22.039
never worn my yellow glitter hat any
other show. Really, really, that's

471
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true, honest. And so somehow
I found my yellow hat and my fun

472
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:31.559
beads and I was ready to welcome
the sun. Yeah, that was amazing.

473
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You are you know what yellow?
I don't know if you know this,

474
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:38.320
but you know a lot of colors
have different meanings to them, and

475
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yellow my understanding, the color of
yellow is the color for joy. Oh

476
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:50.840
okay, yeah, I love it. Well, this is a first for

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yellow. I hope we hope we
get a lot of listeners. I hope

478
00:41:55.599 --> 00:42:02.519
goes out to everyone. It's been
really fun connecting with you. What do

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I do now for a living?
Id's being a brilliant writer. Well,

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so this poem inspired this wonderful nonprofit
called World Unit Ink, which I've been

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dedicated to for now thirty years.
World Unit Ink and I do do diversity

482
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:25.519
inclusion training and I give talks,
so I pretty much have dedicated my life

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00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:30.880
to advancing equality for all people.
This book is one of the tools,

484
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:37.280
and my nonprofit is really where I
have devoted pretty much most of my time

485
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:42.639
and believe it not January. The
poem has also inspired this beautiful landmark,

486
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:50.119
a permanent landmark. There's a design
concept for it has set Rochester based city

487
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:53.599
development so it will be a permanent
landmark. With this poem, so that

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the truth will never be distorted.
Future generations will know what quality is.

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And the poem also inspired a song
called We All See the Stars and the

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00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:13.920
song was performed at the United Nations
by children My children and the children love

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00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.599
the song. The challenge you know
general, but maybe it being on your

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00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:22.320
Wonderful show will help. There are
millions of children who don't know the song,

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00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:27.519
millions, and you learn it.
They love it. One little boy

494
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:29.760
said, when he sings it,
it makes them feel like he can do

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00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:35.159
anything. We want all children to
feel that way. And another boy said,

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00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:38.360
when he sings it, it inspires
him. And here's the most powerful

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one. January, a little girl
named Anny Annie said, one day the

498
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:51.239
world will hear this song and it
will stop discrimination. It's not mine.

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That's how powerful she felt. One
day the world will hear and it will

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stop discrimination. Okay. And you
know, when I'm came back on my

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00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:05.760
life. One of my daughters,
uh, they all were ice skaters,

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and we do these performances and everything
at the ice rink, and I would

503
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:15.559
get to help them choose the music. And for one of the recitals for

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00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:21.960
my daughter Brooke, I chose the
song here Comes the Sun, and I

505
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:29.400
made her a rainbow skating outfit,
and when she skated, it just brought

506
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:35.000
tears my eyes. And her skating
was the same message you have to The

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00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:38.679
sun does not describ The Sun's here
for everyone. The sun loves everyone.

508
00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:43.840
Yeah. Right, So then so
the question becomes, you know, answering

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that question, am I grated?
And the sun that shines on everyone?

510
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:51.400
So we just have to be willing
to kind of look inside our hearts and

511
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:54.079
our soul and asked her says,
well, how do I feel about this

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00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:59.199
group? This group, like,
just go down the list. It's not

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00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:04.519
more compl that and we just all
to me that the pump can also help

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00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:09.239
root us all our humanity first,
that's what we all have in common.

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00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:14.920
We're all human beings first. That's
where we need to be rooted. The

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differences are the beauty of who we
are. So when I go out into

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the world, I'm a human being
first. I don't go out and to

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00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:27.199
work. Oh I'm Chinese first.
No, I'm a human being. I

519
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:31.119
don't look just to connect with other
Chinese people. I'll connect with any human

520
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:37.559
being. And so the question becomes
it becomes what holds us back from talking

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to somebody who maybe looks different than
us? What holds us back saying hello

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00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.360
or talking to someone who has a
different point of view? Why are we

523
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:52.679
so afraid of one another? And
you know, one of the big points

524
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.840
I've made, and thou shalt not
wine? And I call it that smile

525
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:01.199
here and I have. I was
born. I'm a contagious smiler. I

526
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:06.239
smile. One time I had surgery
and I listened in the recovery room when

527
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:12.159
the doctor says, why is she
smiling? But when you smile, or

528
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:15.840
like when you're in line at the
pook office and reach out to someone and

529
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:20.880
smile. Guess what, there's a
connection. It happens. It's that easy,

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isn't it It is? Yes,
it is. And I don't know

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why how we got this way.
We were so afraid of what well I

532
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:31.360
do to some degree. Again,
I go back to social media and the

533
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:38.280
Internet, which a powerful tool that's
promoting and perpetuating different biases and prejudices and

534
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:45.920
feeding people's fears unfortunately, and so
we have to be very mindful of what

535
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:52.880
we're taking in, what we're holding
on to. Well, I think that

536
00:46:53.840 --> 00:47:01.440
it's been such a long time,
your message is pure loving and I think

537
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:07.480
that we just have to share this
with everyone we know. And it's an

538
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:12.880
incredible having you on the show today. Just I always ask everyone before I

539
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:19.679
close out, if you could invite
one person living or dead, that's me

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00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:24.159
to have dinner with you. Who
would you invite? Oh, you know

541
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:34.880
what came to my mind, Mahatma
Gandhi. I don't know that onething to

542
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:38.639
my and then they Jesus Christ.
And then if we're if we're doing it

543
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:45.199
together, we should throw in mother
Teresa, Mother Teresa. Yeah, I

544
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:50.880
don't mention this to you, but
I did have the honor to deliver a

545
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:57.360
Ted Talk, my Ted Talk,
and it tells two other dramatic stories of

546
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:01.480
how the poem impacted to mean And
I mean, it has been quite a

547
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:07.639
journey for me, and there is
this force greater than ourselves because things have

548
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:13.440
happened to me along this thirty year
journey that it's kind of an on that

549
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:17.920
you would just be like so shocked
that who would have predicted that. I

550
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:22.559
mean, for example, for example, Christmas dinner, you have to go

551
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:29.719
because we're closing it. But this
just is an opportunity for me to invite

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00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:32.800
you back to give your Ted talk
on my podcast in the future. Would

553
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:37.320
you be willing to do that deliver
the whole thing? Well, maybe we're

554
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:47.280
all just the highlights. We have
to go and you surely must come back.

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And for our dear listeners, we
hope you've enjoyed our time together.

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We've tried to be inspiring and informative. And remember the most impersonal important message

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I have for all you keep smiling, stop mining and go out and reach

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out to everyone and spread the love
and your smiles all around. And you

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00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:15.039
know then I always say, if
that doesn't work, then you can just

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00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:24.360
start eating chocolate. Lots of chocolate
and here's little Sunshine Litter Granny saying thank

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you for being with us, Stay
safe, come back soon. We love

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00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:36.159
you, Thank you, thank you
so much. We want to thank you

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00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:42.760
for listening to January Jones sharing success
stories. Always remember miss Jones' personal mantra,

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if you can think it, you
can do it. That's what all

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of our guests have done with their
lives, and so can you. You

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00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.559
are the ultimate success coach in your
own life. All you need to do

567
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:57.880
will be to start sharing your own
story with your family and friends. We

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00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:01.199
hope that our guest stories will encourage
you to explore an equation in your future

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00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:07.760
that will combine your creativity plus connecting
with others will enable you to be successful

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00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:14.800
too. Always remember your passion plus
your purpose will equal prosperity as you explore

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the wonderful world of January Jones