January Jones sharing Born on The Continent with author Gertrude Matshe

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Who is January Jones. She is
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actress on Madman. She is not
an older, gorgeous exotic dancer from The

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Johnny Carson Show. She is an
author and she wrote Thou Shall Not Why,

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the Eleventh Commandment that rates number one
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a reality TV golf personality with World
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She is a huge wrist and why
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today on January Jones sharing success stories. So sit back, relax, and

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get ready to laugh and listen to
Ms Jones with her eclectic roster of guests

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as you learn life's lessons. These
stories plus sharing equal success. Welcome and

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everyone, I hope you're having a
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and use, so you'll get the
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my listeners, let me ask you
a question. Did you know that it

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is Black History Month? Yes,
February. Have you ever heard the term

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black is beautiful? Yeah? Of
course we all have, haven't we Have

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you wondered what it means? What
it really means? Now, how about

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the term systemic racism? We've all
heard about it, but I'm not sure

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many of us know what it means. Now, would you like to meet

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someone who can explain these terms for
us? Tell me, have you ever

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heard about a fabulous book entitled Born
on This Continent? If you can answer

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yes or maybe to any of these
questions, then I'd like to welcome you

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to January Jones sharing senior success stories. Today it's time to rest, relax,

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Go, get yourself some cheese crackers, get a glass of wine,

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and join us in the no wine
zone. Now we're going to meet someone

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who has personally can personally share her
own experiences with racism. She is an

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African textile artist, fashion designer,
and inspirational speaker who has been described as

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a vibrant bundle of African energy whose
zest and passion for life inspires everyone she

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meets. She's an international speaker,
celebrated author, philanthropy consultant, Rooney International

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scholar, three times ted X speaker. She's passionate about helping people sheeve their

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full potential and find their individual purpose
in life. Now, I'd like to

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introduce you to a diversity connector,
my dear friend Getrid Mashi. Hi,

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Getrid. Hello, January. Wonderful
to see you again. I know,

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as we talked about before we went
on the air, it's been close to

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ten years. It's been a while. It's been a while, and you

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know, I haven't forgot you at
all. And I want to tell you

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share with you that our show that
we did together those many years ago has

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been put in replays constantly all through
blog talk and ihearten everywhere and it still

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is just a very popular show with
everyone. So what have you been doing

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in these last ten years? So
I can catch up a little catch up.

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I am now living in Melbourne,
Australia, left Wellington, New Zealand

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during COVID, had come to be
with my daughter when she was having her

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first baby and got stuck here for
eight months because of the lockdowns. Oh

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uh huh So now our proud grandmother. Oh wow, wow, isn't that

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exciting? That worked out well for
you? Then you weren't. Yeah,

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you were stuck somewhere you didn't want
to be. I wanted to and I've

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decided to stay. Yeah, and
you know, this is Black History Month,

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which was why it came. You
sent me a fabulous email this past

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week or so, and I looked
at it and I thought, I've got

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to get that girl back here and
have her share current experiences and her knowledge

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of systemic racism. We hear about
that all the time, but not many

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of us know what it actually means. And I use from your email,

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I understand there's five different kinds of
racism internalized, impersonal, individual, structural,

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and institutional. Could you go through
each one of those with us and

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give us some insight into what it
means and your experiences with those kinds of

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racism. Well, I think the
place to start is to really break down

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what systemic racism is all about.
He's also known as institutional racism, and

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it refers to a complex interactions of
policies, practices, and cultural representations that

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reinforce and perpetuate racial inequality. This
form of racism is embedded within systems structures

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of society, including legal, economic, educational, and political institutions, leading

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to the disadvantages of certain racial and
ethnic groups whilst privileging others. So those

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disparities and social justice, economic inequality, educational disparities, health disparities, housing

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discrimination campused under systemic racism. So
I think that's really the basis of understanding

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what we're talking about here, because
sometimes people hear these words, you know,

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thrown around and you don't quite understand. So racism itself was very complex

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and multifaceted, and it manifests in
various forms, reflecting deep seated prejudices and

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systematic inequalities. So now let me
break down the different types of racism out

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there. The post that you saw
on LinkedIn that I shared last week was

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on individual racism. Okay, individual
racism is something that happens to an individual

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based on experiences. You've had personal
prejudices, stereotypes that manifest through behaviors,

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language, actions that demean or harm
individuals based on their racial and ethnic background.

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And I can only share what this
has been for me as an individual.

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So I grew up in apartheid Rhodesia
before Zimbabwe had independence. We had

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a similar system to the United States
with race relations issues. Black and white

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people were not allowed to mix at
that British colonial rule. So I was

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a little black girl who was thrown
into an all white school. For children

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to get the best education, you
had to go to the white schools.

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Black school in Rhodesia at the time
offered substandard education so my parents wanted the

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best for their kids, and I
was always the first black child in every

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school, every institution I ever attended. And I curious to ask you,

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how did your parents manage to do
this? Were they extremely wealthy? My

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parents were not rich. They were
rich and how they thought. They knew

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that getting a good education would break
the cycle of poverty. So my dad

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was fortunate to get a scholarship in
nineteen sixty seven, the year that I

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was born, to go to the
UK and get his first degree. He

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took his young wife with him and
left me and my sister with my grandmother.

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So I was nine months old,
my sister two, and they shared

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one scholarship. Struggled for three years
and managed to raise money for me and

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my sister. She joined them in
the UK. So I lived in the

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UK from the age of three until
I was six. Oh my gosh,

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Now, when you went to the
UK, did your grandmother go with you

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or just the two of you?
Unfortunately, my grandmother stayed behind, and

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you can imagine she did the best
she could. No income in a village

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where we were put on a reservation
and the colonial rule, hardly able to

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grow anything. Semi desert semi arid
land and I was the poster child for

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World Vision, severely malnourished. My
grandmother did the best she could, but

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it wasn't easy, oh sure.
When my parents raised the money for our

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tickets, we went and joined them
in the UK. We came when I

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was six years old, and my
parents were forced to come back because these

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were Commonwealth scholarships. When you graduated, you had to go back to your

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country of origin. So my dad
became a chanted accountant. My mother became

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a nurse. But when they got
back to Rhodesia, my dad could not

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get a white collar job because he
was black, so despite his UK qualifications,

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nobody would employ him. Wow.
My father ended up working in a

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chicken slaughtering factory. And Zimbabwe got
independence in nineteen eighty and they relied on

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my mother's salary, so she was
working in a hospital and it was a

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struggle. So mom was a very
creative woman, was an entrepreneur. After

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work, she would teach us how
to make things to help raise the money

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for our own school fees. So
from the age of six we were taught

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to knit, to crochet, to
so you are constantly making things to sell

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and on the weekends when she had
her days off, she would cross that

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racial line go into all the white
neighborhoods to sell her wares. And sometimes

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she would take me with her because
I was the younger of the two children

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at the time. So I watched
my mother hustling to raise the money for

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us to go to private school,
and it changed the trajectory of my life.

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That is just an amazing This is
going to be an amazing visit with

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you today. I know my listeners
are going to learn so much before we

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Now Here, you were with your mother

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going to the villagers to sell things. What an experience for a child?

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Did you Did you enjoy it or
was it a task? Or how did

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it evolve? It was the basis
that made me an amazing saleswoman. My

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mother could sell snow to the Esquimos. She was an incredible salesperson, and

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I just thinctly remember one day I
went with her, so we would travel

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on a bicycle, have a big
basket of ways in the front, unstrapped

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to the bike at the back.
And we had walked for hours and sold

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nothing. I was hungry, I
was thirsty. I just wanted to go

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home, and I was whining and
complaining. You talk about whining. Walked

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to the bike in the middle of
the street and she looked me in the

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eyes and she said, listen,
you need to remember two things. When

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you sell, people have got two
choices. They can say yes or they

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can say no. If they say
yes, you've made your sale. You

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go and knock on the next door
and make another sail. If they say

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no, it's got nothing to do
with you, just for selling. So

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as you said this, we knocked
on the next door. You own your

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house. I remember it had these
big white pillars in the front. I've

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never seen such a beautiful home before. And the lady of the house opened

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the door, which was very unusual
at the time because most European people would

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have servants who did that for them. But this woman must have seen my

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sorry little face. Oh. She
invited us into the house, which again

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was not done. I had never
been in a white person's house before my

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gosh, the first thing she did
is she went to the kitchen, came

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back with a glass of juice and
a slice of cake. And I remember

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that piece of cake to this day. Oh yeah, wow. Talking to

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my mom asking her why she was
selling, and my mother said, my

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goals go to the convent. Now, the Dominican Convent was the most expensive

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school in the country, and it
baffled her. She said, why why

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don't you send your children to the
township schools where all the other African children

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go. Said, because my girls
need a good education. They're educated,

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they will get out of poverty.
Now January I was six, Yes,

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I realized what my mother meant,
the value of the education I was getting.

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And apparently this lady bought everything in
our basket. She didn't have to

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buy everything, but she did.
Wow. Walking home, I explained that

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she had bought enough for two years
of our education for two years, and

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my mother said, there's two kinds
of people in the world, people and

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there's bad people. That woman is
a good person. So never let the

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color of somebody's skin stop you from
getting to know them. So when you

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grow up in a racist society,
you can carry a chip on your shoulder.

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You can ex all white people to
be racist, and not everybody is.

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So I've gone into the world with
that lens. I give people an

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opportunity to show up for who they
are, and I've built amazing relationships with

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people all over the world because of
it. So many lessons were learned by

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hanging out of my mom when she
was selling. Well, that's such a

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marvelous lesson to learn when you're only
six years old, and to keep it

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with you through your entire life.
Sister, how was she the younger one

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or how did I was the youngest? So Mom would always take me with

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her. I would complain I wanted
to go with her, so she would

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take me with her. So it's
difficult for your parents to get your girls

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into the school with the Dominican nuns. How it was. The fortunately is

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that the Dominican Convent was a Catholic
schools were Catholics. So the parish priest

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wrote a letter to val to get
into the school. And independence was on

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the way, and they knew that
they had to start changing their practices and

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start bringing in black children into these
schools. And they were being very,

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very selective, and so it happened
that my dad managed to talk to the

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parish priest who voucher. He got
in because of that. Okay, okay,

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Now, when we got into the
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Were you accepted or how did the
transition go? Did the other children

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bully you? We were bullied.
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The other kids would spit at us. They would shouts racial slurs.

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So in Africa, the word for
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us kafas, go home, your
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we never went out into the playground
during break time to avoid that. Yes,

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and I became a bookworm because of
it. I would just immerse myself

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in books and it became my biggest
gift. So now I'm a writer because

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of it. Wonderful, how it
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time, and even the nuns were
not very kind. Really, wow,

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ask me if I'm religious. I
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I had religion beaten out of me. Two weeks after I started school.

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I was playing in the garden.
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and one of the nuns came charging
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and she beat me until I fainted. I woke up in sick bay two

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hours later, and I realized that
religion doesn't actually mean anything. It's who

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you are as a person. My
religion is my work. I expressed kindness

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and compassion to people that I meet. You can go to church every single

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day and be religious, but that
doesn't mean anything. So it formed my

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persona as a spiritual person. That
experience. You know, I shared a

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similar story, not as dramatic as
you're obviously, but I also went to

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a Catholic school my entire life.
I'd never had been to the public schools

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ever. And we had the situation
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I love, there were only five
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There was like about one hundred and
eighty. And she was fabulous, you

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know, she was a student counsul, she was you name it, she

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did it, and she was really
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when we got to graduation time,
they were always trying to get us to

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become nuns, you know, and
we were all trying being brainwashed. So

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we always think about it whenever we
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And so it came to graduation time
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She wanted to become a nun.
She was very religious. Her parents

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were Catholic, they were religious.
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off from the whole story. She
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by the nuns because they had never
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I thought, oh my gosh,
that's so hypocritical, because they were teaching

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us love everyone, you know,
we're all equal. And then when it

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came to that situation, and just
like you, I sat down and I

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said, you know, this isn't
right. Something's wrong here. So that

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leads into structural racism really neatly.
As an example, this is systems which

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are embedded in the society. So
it could be the legal system that discriminates,

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an education system, law enforcement,
healthcare. That's what institutional racism was

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all about. So I'm really glad
you touched on that as well. Yeah,

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wow, impersonal racism, tell me
a little b about what what's that

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like? So with personal racism,
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race itself. So, for example, African people's skin color is very very

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different. We have different shades of
brown, and some of us are darker

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skin, some of us are fairer
skinned, some of us have got different

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textures of hair. And so within
the African community itself, we've taken on

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the things that we've learned from our
colonial masters. Oh there's a thing called

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good hair. When your hair is
silky and straighter, that's called good hair.

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considered to be more beautiful. Oh
really, So that happens a lot within

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our race. And it's a very
very sad thing to see families treating certain

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children differently just based on how they
lock. And in South Africa, when

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I lived in South Africa, they
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So I have very tight curls.
I have what's called a four sea curl,

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which is the tightest curl you can
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with any human race. And if
I have my afro and I put

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a pencil in my head and shake
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It stays in my hair because my
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I see the pencil played South Africa. The pencil test was used to classify

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people. Really, yes, I've
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also the brown paper bag test.
I think it was also used in the

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United States, where they would hold
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on what color your skin was,
you were either better or worse than darker

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skinned people. So these are the
things that happened with personal racism, and

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you actually find people who are darker
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It leads to depression. It leads
to a lot of internalized anguish for that

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individual, not seeing their own beauty
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a very very sad thing to see. You know. When you were speaking

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earlier, you said our masters,
and I thought I heard you say monsters.

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It just both yea sublibly, that's
what I was thinking. I definitely

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heard monsters on that one. When
you went to the school, was it

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a boarding school? Did you live
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fortunately we were day day scholars.
We couldn't afford the boarding school was too

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expensive, so we would have to
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Well, that's wonderful. That she
didn't have to stay there with all

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these kids bullying you and picking on
you. I can really Oh, that's

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just horrible to think about. You
know, before we go to break,

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would you share with our listeners your
website and where they can find you.

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So my website is her story Circle
dot net and you can find me on

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LinkedIn. You can find me on
Facebook. Those are the two platforms I

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play on the most and Instagram wonderful
good and that is down at the bottom

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her out. And right now we're
going to hear a little bit about who

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killed Kennedy. Let me ask you
a question, are you still wondering who

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killed Kennedy? Over fifty years later? The assassination is still a mystery.

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It is unfinished business for our country. Now get ready for a theory that

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that you've ever heard in the past. January Jones speaks the unspeakable in her

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romantically prior to JFK's assassination, did
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the White House during the JFK funeral. He was the only non family member

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who was invited by Jackie to stay
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one of the wealthiest men in the
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and the money to order an assassination
that was the perfect crime of the

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last century. Ara needed class and
Jackie needed cash. They were perfect for

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each other. Now what is Camelot? It is but another tragic love triangle?

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Read by mis Jones, Welcome back with

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our author who is visiting with us
from Melbourne, Australia, Yedgrudmachi, and

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she is also I want to share
she's also a granny, and so I

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think I'm going to have to make
her an honorary litter granny so she can

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glow with me while she's enjoying her
grandson. You know, I've read things

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about the issue with hair for black
families and for children, especially for girls,

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and dealing with it is quite a
complicated thing, isn't it. It

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really is. You know right now, my little grandson is biracial. So

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my daughter married an Australian boy.
And within our family we come from many,

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many different lineages. We did a
DNA test very recently. We always

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knew that my ex husband's great grandfather
was white, so his grandmother is biracial,

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and it's interesting that the color jumps
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is very dark skinned, but very
fair skinned, so you can actually see

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the white blood in than in my
ex husband. And he talked about his

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experiences. His grandmother was almost taken
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She was biracial. They would take
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their parents, really being brought up
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fortunately her mother hid her when the
authorities came to take her away. And

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it's just interesting that people of African
descent are made up of a variety of

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races, although it doesn't always manifest, you know, in physically how you

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look. I found out that fifty
five percent of my DNA is from Cameroon,

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and we always thought we were from
Southern Africa, so that was a

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new revelation on my side as well, and that was such an amazing continent.

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I must have had a nomad ancestor
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Africa and came down to the south. Start tracing back the DNA, you

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find that this is what we get
within our own societies, and that's what's

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called calorism. Yes, okay,
that's a big factor, you know,

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talking about DNA. Our family did
that, and I discovered at after seventy

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five years that I had a brother
I didn't know had existed. He's a

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half brother. We had different mothers, but we had the same father.

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And it took seventy five years for
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wonderful. We call it the highlight
of our twilight, really, and it's

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interesting. I think I was surprised
too with the DNA thing, because my

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husband's family is Norwegian, and so
I've been masquerading for fifty three years as

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a Norwegian, and then my DNA
came back and I found out that I

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was two percent Norwegian. I'm one
of you guys. You know the other

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thing too. We had an interesting
guest on a few months ago, and

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he talked about the Osage Indians here
in the United States, and those children

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too, were taken from their families
and taken and put into Catholic schools completely,

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They completely erased their heritage from them. Actually that explains my name.

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You know how you said you had
misspelled my name in the email. My

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name should be spelled Gertrude, but
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My own grandmother was taken away from
her parents when she was young and thrown

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into a German orphanage run by Catholic
nuns. She did not know her parents,

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she did not know her African name, and she said when she turned

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six she dropped the R in Gertrude
as an act of defiance to piss off

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the nuns her until she was black
and blue, and she refused to change

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it back so to honor my grandmother's
story. Most African names have a story

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around them. Names actually mean something. You're normally named around the circumstances of

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your birth. So I have deliberately
kept my grandmother's misspelled name so that story

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doesn't die. Yes have to share
why I've got a misspelled German name.

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I'm an African woman from Southern Africa, a name like Gertrude. But that

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happened a lot during the colonial era. Show us how did your grandmother get

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back and find her real family?
How long did it take and how did

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she do it? It took years. It all happened after independence, of

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course, people started reconnecting, finding
lost children, and it was her mother's

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brothers who were still alive. Unfortunately
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Yeah, yeah, well that I
can share that feeling of finding a brother

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after all those years. It's a
wonderful experience. What else would you share

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about your experiences with racism? You
can then about cultural racism. So as

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you know, Africa is a melting
pot of different tribes and I come from

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a tribe called the Shona people.
My ex husband came from a tribe called

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then Deble. Then de Ve came
from Southern Africa. From South Africa,

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then Debel tribe are the Zulus,
the Coursers. Their language has got the

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click sounds to it, and came
up north to Zimbabwe. They used to

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apparently come and raid our villages and
steal the Shauna women because we have got

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very white hips and nice looking legs. This was the story my grandmother used

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to tell me. When we got
married. We had a lot of issues

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because we came from two different tribes. Oh. I actually remember my wedding

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day was a total disaster because in
the Shana culture, when a girl gets

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married, you spend six months beating
a god. I don't know if you

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know what a god is, but
it is a pumpkin that is dried and

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then scooped out and you turn it
into a container that can hold water or

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oil. But you're gifted a god
by your grandmother and you have to beat

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it with very intricate beadwork. It's
about this big wants to beat this god

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and you fill it with oil.
And my first ritual to my extended new

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family is the day after the wedding, I would go and fetch some water

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and kneel in front of all of
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grandparents, his uncles, his aunts, and they wash their hands. I

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will give them a towel. They
will dry their hands and then use the

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oil inside the god to moisturize their
hands. It's just a first service to

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my new extended family. Right.
So I show up at the village for

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my wedding, yeah, to park
the car ten kilometers away. My husband

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comes from a very big family his
father and his mother came from families of

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eight ten people, so he's got
a very large extended family. So I

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had to walk to his village ten
kilometers and everybody came out into the streets.

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There was drumming, They was singing
and celebrating that a new bride has

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come to the community. When I
got to the main house, I had

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to be shrouded in a white sheet
and each step I took by the way,

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my relatives were given money, so
they throw money at my feet and

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it was an incentive for me to
come into the village to see my beautiful

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face for the first time. They
had to pay money and then they would

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unveil me and I was inside the
sheet holding my beat a goad and live

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chicken, which I would kill the
day after the wedding and cook for my

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first service as the first meal I
cooked for the family. In my ex

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husband's family, they became very very
Christian, did not believe in anything traditional,

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anything African traditional, and I was
almost labeled a witch for showing up

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with a live chicken because that's what
vodu a total disaster. And I remember

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one of my ex husband's aunts running
out of the house and telling me to

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throw away the chicken, throw away
the gourd, and you got a second

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life and right into the portion.
It was just one of the most hilarious

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experiences. But African people from the
same country, two different tribes, different

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ways of cultural practices that can cause
clashes within communities as well. Oh my

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gosh, that's amazing. That's an
amazing story. It's nice that you can

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tell it and laugh about it all
these years later. You have to laugh.

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It's just crazy. We have to
laugh about these things otherwise you'll cry.

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We're going to take a break now. And have you ever met someone

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who was unforgettable? I would like
to share with you some of the most

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memorable guests who have been on the
show. Have you ever met someone who

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was unforgettable? Someone who has touched
your heart and soul, People who have

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faced difficult problems, people who have
struggled to find solutions, people who fearlessly

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shared their stories, people who have
not only informed you, but inspired you.

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People who have priceless personalities. I
have been fortunate to host an internet

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radio talk show called January John sharing
success Stories, and it has been my

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privilege to interview hundreds of guests.
My guests have shared their stories, their

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struggles, their secrets, and their
successes in their own words. In this

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book, we're talking about people dealing
with problems such as incest, molestation,

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runaway kids, child abuse, drug
abuse, polygamy, unemployment, scandal,

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and starting over. Then there are
my guests dealing with difficult physical struggles such

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as blindness, cancer, and birth
defects that are beyond traumatic. My guests

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have all been exciting, eclectic,
and energizing. They have amazed, amused,

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and even astonished me. I have
adore getting to meet them, and

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I adore sharing them with you.
Attention all listeners. Priceless Personalities success Stories

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shared by January Jones, Volume two
is now available at Amazon dot Com in

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paperback and kindle editions. You'll be
able to meet ten amazing people who will

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be sharing their own personal stories with
all their struggles, successes and solutions sprinkled

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with lots of humor and hope.
Priceless Personalities features a teenager who becomes one

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of the famous supremes from Motown.
A nurse who has a humorist helps people

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to heal an inspiring laughter yoga instrument, a mother dealing with the loss of

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a child, an incredible motivational speaker, a woman who married five times,

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a gifted paranormal nurse, a wise
economist, a funny female humorist, along

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with an older man sharing his sweet
childhood in the Deep South. January's guests

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are all amazing and amusing. You
will never forget meeting them. Go to

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Amazon dot com for your own priceless
experience. Welcome back with another priceless personality.

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A guest on our show, and
she's been on our show. This

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is her second visit with us,
and she's explaining systemic racism to some of

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us and giving us incredible examples of
how it happened and how it affected her

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entire life. Let me ask you
a question. We have to end the

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show sadly, but before we end, I always ask this question to everyone

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who comes on the show. If
you could have dinner with anyone living or

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dead besides me, who would you
choose to dine with? Oh wow,

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I almost had dinner with Nelson Mandela
once. Oh my gosh wow, I

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got on a flight to go to
London. It was the unveiling of his

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ninetieth birthday statue in Parliament sway in
London, and he got sick on the

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flight coming to the UK from South
Africa and he didn't show up at the

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dinner. So Della was my hero. I would have loved to have had

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dinner with him. Oh god,
that's for sure. That's an interesting question

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because so many people surprise me,
and you're the first one who's ever said

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Nelson Mandela. But I could see
where he would fit right in there.

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A lot of my guests say they'd
like to have dinner with Oprah, and

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I certainly would. She's summoned.
You know, we talk about there's presidential

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thing going on, and I say, well, you know, I would

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like to see, of course Michelle
Obama run for president, and that not

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her Oprah. But I think that's
wishful thinking. I'm sure a lot of

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women feel that way. So what
are your plans now in the future.

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What are you up to lately?
So at the moment, I have just

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registered my first technology startup. I
developed an application called the Diversity Connector,

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and it is a platform that connects
diverse people from all over the world with

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organizations that are looking for us.
So since I got to Melbourne, Australia,

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I realized that there is a big
gap. We are a minority here

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and there's a lot of organizations institutions
that look for diverse people to come in

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and run workshops around racism and diversity
inclusion, belonging workshops. So that's my

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latest business at Future. Oh that's
fascinating. That's wonderful to hear. I'm

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glad to see that you're staying keeping
so active. We have to do that

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when we get to this stage.
Now, when you look back, do

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you have any regrets or things that
you wish you could do over do differently

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when you look back on your life, I would do it exactly the same

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way. Now. I've had a
very very challenging life with lots of ups

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and downs, things that went wrong, things that went right, two divorces.

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But when I do look back on
my life, I was actually talking

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to a friend the other day.
I was saying to her, I'm just

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so ready to let life just level
out and be smooth for a while and

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let me get you do you You're
like a little pebble that was in a

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river, and as you've been rolling
in this river, you are getting smoother

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and smoother and smoother. You know
how you get those smooth river pebbles.

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So she gave me a beautiful analogy
of my life that yeah, life is

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is rocky, but at the end
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So I will live my life exactly
the same way. I had a

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lot of lessons along the way,
oh for sure. And have you Wroten,

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Have you written a memoir yet?
Or I have? I have Born

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on the Continent is my first memoir, and thats Rission almost twenty years ago,

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and I am working on a sequel
to Born on the Continent, which

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it is called Beyond the Continent Ubuntu. So everything I share is around the

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Ubuntu philosophy. Wow, that's incredible, you know. Before we go on,

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I want to remind our listeners that
all of the books that I was

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promoting at Amazon, they're all now
available in audible form too. Also,

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I wanted to share with you,
Gadude, that I'm reading an amazing book.

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A black friend of mine gave it
to me at sixteen nineteen. I

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don't know if you've heard of it, but it tells a different view of

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our American revolution, our country,
and it's the view black point of view

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that most people have never heard about. And I'll be talking more about that

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book on the show in the future. So nice to have you back with

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us, and we've really it's been
good to touch base again. Thank you

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so much, January. Wonderful to
reconnect with you, and thank you for

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the opportunity to share this important topic
during Black History Month. Oh for sure,

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for sure. Remember listeners, we
hope you've enjoyed our time together.

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We tried to be informative and inspiring. My upcoming guests will all be eclectic,

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exciting, and energizing, just like
Get the next Tuesday at three pm.

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I'm looking forward to welcoming a new
friend. Her name is Cindy Jordan

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and she's an author of amazing book
called The Pearl that when I read it,

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I couldn't put it down and I
highly recommend it. Now my eighty

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year old thought for the day,
and this is a fun one. This

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is the law of the bathtub.
And this states that when the body is

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fully immersed in water, for sure
the telephone will ring and if you and

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if you're close to it and you
get it, then you will drop it

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in the water. So don't get
involved with the law of the bathtub.

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This is January Jones is the Glitter
Granny. Thank you for entering the New

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Wine Zone with us today. It's
been so much fun having you here.

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And please share our stories and our
show with everyone you know. And remember

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stop whining and then start smiling.
And if that doesn't work, then you

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can just start eating chocolate, lots
lots of chocolate. Goodbye to Australia,

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So January, take care, okay, come back again. Bye. We

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want to thank you for listening to
January Jones sharing success stories. Always remember

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miss Jones' personal mantra, if you
can think it, you can do it.

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That's what all of our guests have
done with their lives and so can

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you. You are the ultimate success
coach in your own life. All you

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need to do will be to start
sharing your own story with your family and

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friends. We hope that our guest
stories will encourage you to explore an equation

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in your future that will combine your
creativity plus connecting with others will enable you

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to be successful too. Always remember
your passion plus your purpose will equal prosperity

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as you explore the wonderful world of
January Jones