Sept. 19, 2024

January Jones sharing Hello Dolly, Mame & La Cage by Jerry Herman with Jane onan

January Jones sharing Hello Dolly, Mame & La Cage by Jerry Herman with Jane onan

JERRY HERMAN COMPOSER/LYRICIST OF

Hello, Dolly! Mame and La Cage

January Jones will share with Jane Dolan, Jerry Herman's goddaughter, behind-the-scenes celebrity and production stories about this amazing talent.

Jane Dorian was, by Jerry’s own...

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JERRY HERMAN COMPOSER/LYRICIST OF

Hello, Dolly! Mame and La Cage

January Jones will share with Jane Dolan, Jerry Herman's goddaughter, behind-the-scenes celebrity and production stories about this amazing talent.

Jane Dorian was, by Jerry’s own admission, the most important person in his life (other than his mother) and as the manager of the Jerry Herman LLC and estate, she can share rare and personal insights into the mind of the legendary man himself,

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Who is January Jones. She is not a young, beautiful,

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talented actress on Mad Mad. She is not an older,

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an author and she wrote Thou Show Not Why, the

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wrist and whyologist expert. She is your featured host today

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on January Jones sharing success stories. So sit back, relax,

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and get ready to laugh and listen to Ms Jones

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with her eclectic roster of guests. As you learn life's lessons.

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These stories plus sharing equal success. Welcome and remember beware

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because you are entering the no whining world of January Jones.

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glittergranny dot com for sure. Now, for my listeners, let

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me ask.

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You a question.

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Do you remember seeing Hello, Dolly Name and Lakache? These

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were the shows on Broadway And you know I happen

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to have been on Broadway in New York in nineteen

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sixty three when I was flying and based there for

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Eastern Airlines. So tell me you know who Jerry Herman

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is He is the brilliant person responsible for these incredible

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Broadway shows that we all have loved through the years. Now,

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would you like to meet someone who can tell us

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the inside story about this amazing man. If you can

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answer yes or maybe to any of these questions, then

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you are in the right place, and I'd like to

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welcome you to January Jones sharing senior success. Now, let

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me tell you a little bit about my guest today,

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but I do that time to rest, relax, Go get

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some wine, get some crackers, get some cheese, and join

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us in the no wine zone. My guest today is

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Jerry Herman's goddaughter, who will be sharing behind the scenes

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celebrity production stories from his amazing life. Our guest, by

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Jerry's own admission, was the most important person in his

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life other than his mother, and she is the manager

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of the Jerry Herman LLC and Estate. She'll share rare

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personal insights into the mind of this legendary man today.

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It's my pleasure and welcome to the show today. Jane

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Dorian the goddaughter.

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Hello Jane, Hello January, and oh my goodness, you are

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essentilating as your jewelry. It's such a pleasure to be

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with you.

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Well, I've then looking forward to this because, as I

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said in the introduction, I was there in nineteen sixty three.

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That's when I was twenty one and Broadway, New York.

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It was the most exciting time, and those were some

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of the very first Broadway shows I was fortunate met

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to ever see. Let's start with your connection. How did

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you become his God?

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It's a great question. So my mother and Jerry met

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the first day of college at the University of Miami

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when they were seventeen years old, and they were the

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two skinniest kids that ever existed. They one another that

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day at the quad and never said a word. That night,

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there was a freshman party and Jerry was at the

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piano playing the American Songbook. My mother, who was a

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trained singer, sat down next to him started singing, and

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the two of them made music together until the day

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she passed away, unfortunately way too soon. But that is

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what they did together, and it was quite a relationship.

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They were the brothers and sisters that never were.

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Okay, okay, that was my next question. Was it a.

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Romantic thing or were they a brother's sister and they

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had a very platonic friendship.

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How many years were they friends?

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Oh, my goodness, seventeen to sixty two, I'd have to

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do the math, but bought forty at least forty years.

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I mean that was something. I mean, you were so

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close that they could walk down the street really not

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even talking to one another, and then out of the blue,

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they would start singing the same song and in the

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same key. How do you explain that?

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Yeah, that's just that's karma.

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That's karma, and that's also charisma when two talents like

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that can get together. So your mother was very talented,

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and we all know Jerry was extremely talented. Did she

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ever perform in any of his shows like Old Hello

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Dolly or you know?

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I think she was pregnant with my brother during that

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time period. However, she did all of his backers auditions,

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and she did perform in his Broadway show The Grand Tour.

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She did many concerts with him over the years. So

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she was just just an integral part of his career.

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Oh wonderful.

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Now, Okay, there's seventeen and what happened after they left college?

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And well, let's on what happened in college. So, I

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mean Jerry's parents had a camp in a called Stissing

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Lake in the Berkshires, and Jerry was the musical director.

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So he basically grew up directing and writing special songs

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for the camp and lighting them and writing them and everything.

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So by the time he got to college, he was

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writing the reviews. He did shows in college. A lot

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of times, my mother, Carol Dorian, would be the musical

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director or the musical supervisor of those shows. So then

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by the time he graduates from college, he is playing

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the piano at piano bars and he lived on his

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tip money. And then all of a sudden, the off

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Broadway shows started to come So I Feel Wonderful and

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Madam Aphrodite, and then he was asked to do Milk

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and Honey, so I don't know. That was his first

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Broadway show. So that was about Israel, what it was

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like to go to Israel, the romance between an American

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and Israeli and through their eyes we get to see

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really the birth of a nation and all of the

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promise that Israel had to offer. And Jerry had never

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been to Israel, so he's flown over there and he

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is stunned. He said, you only really need one word

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and that's shalom, and that was the first song that

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he wrote for Milk and Money, so it was It's

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quite a beautiful, beautiful score. And as a matter of fact,

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I always say that that show demonstrated the promise of

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his musical ability. The music is o lush, and he

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really fulfills that promise throughout his entire career.

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That was a preview of coming to attractions exactly. Okay,

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So then he moved to New York, as did your

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mother also go to New York, and they both were

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formed from New York, right, Well.

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My mother was actually from North Carolina. Jerry was from

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Jersey City, and the second he graduated from college, he

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moved to New York, as did my mother, and my

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father was from New York. So they all just kind

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of as a unit moved together and that was their life.

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They saw every single show. I mean I heard stories

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of how they heard Judy Garland sing and they would

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serenade her under her window because they loved her so

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so much, you know, great great New York stories. I mean,

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can you imagine being young in the fifties and sixties

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in New York. It was the golden time for entertainment.

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I know, and that's why I was so real to

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have you come on the show and share some of

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these stories with us, because I was there.

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I was in that back road.

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That's about all I could afford, and a lot of

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those shows we would stand standing room only, and that

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was the cheapest way to get in and it was

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the best way to see the most incredible shows that

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have ever been on Broadway.

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Agreed. And I think when Hello Dolly came to be,

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it was a very significant show. It was the first

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happy musical after the Kennedy assassination and the country really

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needed to grieve. And the show is at its core

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about second chances, and I really feel that that song

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was the second chance for this country to heal, you know.

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And then you couple that with Louis Armstrong's recording of

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Hello Dolly that came out before the show opened, and

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it was a throwaway recording because that's when they did

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forty fives. You and I are old enough to remember

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the forty five records, and if you've got some young

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viewers who don't know about it, they were essentially singles

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where a very popular song was recorded on side A

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and side B was a throwaway and everyboy. Once in

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a while, you got lucky with a good song. Well,

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Louis Armstrong was in the studio recording his song A

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and then one of the musicians said, why didn't you

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just ky the song, this dolly song? He just literally

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improvised the whole thing. Wow, and it knocked the beatles

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off the charts.

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Oh my gosh.

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Put it in a Broadway show together, it's just an

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amazing undertaking. Could you kind of share a little with

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our listeners, what goes into it, how long it takes,

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and share a little bit about the difficulty and these

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type of shows.

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Let's start with your first question, and I think it's

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a great question. Putting together a Broadway show is the

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ultimate in collaboration, Okay, because Jerry would always rely on

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source material to write the songs, and his genius was

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understanding that the emotion was so pure that it became universal. However,

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without a great book, without a great libretto, where does

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he put a song? Why does a character even need

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to sing? So you had that very first collaboration, and

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then you have a director who can basically pull it

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all together, and the choreographer is so important, and the

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lighting and the sound and the musicians, and back in

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those days you had full orchestras. You had orchestras between

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twenty five and thirty piece orchestras, and the sound was glorious.

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So it really no man is an island, you know.

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When it comes to a Broadway show, Yes, the casting

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is hugely important, but many people may not know. Carol

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Channing was not the first choice for Hello Dolly. That

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may be to believe, because she was the most iconic.

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She was Hello Dolly, but initially Jerry had thought that

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ethel Merman would be Hello Dolly. And I can really

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see that, I mean that big voice. But she was exhausted,

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she had come off a show and she wanted to break,

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but she did. She was the last Dolly. And when

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she did perform Hello Dolly, he gave her a brand

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new song to sing.

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Oh really, so that was that was pretty wonderful.

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Nanette Fabrae was offered it and she define And then

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the third one was Mary Martin, and Mary Martin was

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committed to a show and that closed three days after

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it opened, and I'm sure she was very upset. She didn't,

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you know, take it.

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And then there was.

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Carol Chatting and thank goodness. I mean you mentioned karma.

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I heard the opening. Karma is huge. This one was

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just meant to be. Can you imagine anyone other than

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Carol being Dolly Gallagher Levi.

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Oh my gosh.

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That world was just made for her and she just

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was incredible in it. And I just love exactly what

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she said about the country needed it, because that was

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nineteen sixty three and after the assassination, it was just

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the country was in a depression. We will a tailspin

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and to get people to come out go to the

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theater and here's laugh yeah, laughter and smiles and cheerful

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that would be.

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That was like a.

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Tonic for the whole country. That's in amazing. What a wonderful,

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wonderful timing for that. And to find out that she

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was the fourth choice.

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a brand in an institution when when she performed Hello Dolly.

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Who whoever is your leading lady or leading men really

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sets the tone for the show. Jerry very much wanted

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Angela Lansbury to play name and she had just come

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off of the Mentorian Candidate, which was a very dark,

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dark role, and she didn't look particularly glamorous, and it

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was like certain ick factor to her just because of

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this role that she had so successfully played. But Jerry

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knew how glamorous she was and knew that she was

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his name. So he said, Angela, come over, I'm going

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to teach you two songs she auditioned and yes, stars

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did audition in those.

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Days, and yeah, okay.

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two audition songs and after she sang It's Today, and

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then she sang if he walked into my life. That

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was game over.

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Yeah, that was it done done.

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Welcome back to my lovely guest today, Jane Dorian, who

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is an expert. I'm Jerry Hermit.

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Jane. Before we go on, would you share with our

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listeners some of the events that you are here to publicize.

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I am very intrigued about the two app auctions that

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are going to be taken.

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Yes, so we have two auctions. The first one is

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Jerry's unused crypt, and I must specify that otherwise it

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would be a little crowded. So Jerry purchased it crypt

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at Pierce Brothers Westwood Memorial Cemetery, which is where so

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many of the talk about sparkling scintillating stars are buried.

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I mean between Farrah Fawcett, Jane Wilder, Jack Lemon, Truman Capoti,

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just to name a few. And his unused crypt is

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located right next to Hugh Hefner's and one over from

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Marilyn Monrose. So if you're the kind of person that

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wants to spend eternity next to the two sexiest people

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that ever lived, not to mention the two best marketers

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that ever live, this is your opportunity. So it's an

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auction being held on October twenty fifth at Auctionsolutions dot

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com and it's going to be a lot of fun.

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In that same auction Marlon Brando's tuxedo that he wore

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for The Godfather, So it's definitely worth checking out. The

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next one.

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Is before we go on, I just have to ask

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what made him decide not to use that crypt himself?

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Great question. So Jerry purchased the crypt back in the

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nineties when he was dealing with some pretty serious health

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issues and fortunately he was able to overcome them. And

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while he thought you would be intern there in the

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eleventh hour, he decided he wanted to be buried next

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to his two favorite ladies, his mother and my mother.

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So they are resting for all of eternity right next

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to one another. And I am sure they are having

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a ball. Lots of singing, lots of music, lots of laughter.

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Oh that's what That's why that came to be. So

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the auction is at Doyle's go to Doyle dot com

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and this is Jerry's memorabilia. Now, what many of your

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audience members may not know is through the ASCAT Foundation.

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Jerry too has a foundation, the Jerry Legacy Foundation, and

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he teaches musical theater. He has workshops, and there's this

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wonderful program that ASCAP does bring to the mostly to

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the universities, and he has young kids who are interested

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in musical theater, all about musical theater. They workshop projects,

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and if there happens to be somebody particularly talented, they're

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either offered a prize or a scholarship. And this is

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something that will continue for the foreseeable future. So all

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of his memorabilia is the proceeds will go to that.

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But here's a spoiler alert. Okay, Jerry's piano is being auctioned. Yeah,

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oh my gosh, that's pretty that's pretty special. Sore. There's

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literally something in there for everyone. Amazing photographs, furniture, artwork, jewelry,

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just all sorts of wonderful momentos that that he had.

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So now, is there a catalog where or is there

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a preview?

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So that online If you go to www Dot Doyle

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dot com and just you know, type in Jerry Herman

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in the search box, it will bring you up to

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that auction and you'll get to see everything. I mean,

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there are playbills, I mean things that are autographed, you

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name it. It's it will take you a little bit of time.

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So it will while be a live auction there will

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it will be done out of the New York location,

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and you can attend if you want to, but uh,

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anybody can can participate, you know, throughout the world.

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Okay, so it will be pretty much a zoom.

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Auction exactly as most of them are now today. It's

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fascinating to see how that industry has changed.

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Oh yeah, everything has changed here, but in a wonder

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I think, in a wonderful way. I know here, I've

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just turned eighty, and who would be thinking I'd be

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working with Amazon and doing the things that I've been doing.

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It's interesting because I've just been able.

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To invite a lovely lady who's going to be coming

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on in about three weeks.

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Her name is Mildred and she just turned one hundred

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and one. Wow.

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Wow, Wow, that's amazing. Well, you know what, to quote

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a Jerry Herman lyric, you are forever young.

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Yeah, so that's my favorite. That's my favorite. Yeah.

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And so it's just there's all kinds of possibilities. As

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I was saying, I look forward to making friends with

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people who are actually older than me, because these days

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I always feel I'm the oldest woman everywhere. But it's

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a changing time. It's a wonderful time to be a senior.

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Absolutely, and you consider the alternative, it's wonderful to reach. Absolutely.

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Okay, let's go back now. We talked a lot about

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Hello Dolly.

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I thought that was fascinating how the casting played off

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on that, and then Angela Lansbury in Maine. That was

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very surprise casting, wasn't it.

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It was?

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It was unexpected, but it was brilliant and that was

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part of Jerry's genius. He just knew who to put

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in a particular role.

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Now, he had three shows that went over fifteen hundred performances,

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and that's an incredibly long time to be in a

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Broadway show, because you're talking about eight once a week

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or yes, wow, age a week.

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It is remarkable, and you know, it was kind of interesting.

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He wrote three shows that were wild successes Malcolm Honey,

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Hello Dolly, and Maine, and then he wrote three songs

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that did not achieve the same success. I mean, the

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music is incredible, but he then wrote Mac and Mabel,

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which is now cult status.

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Yes I know that.

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Yeah, and maybe one maybe his finest score. Some people

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would say that, I don't know. For me, all of

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his songs. It's like choosing a favorite child. I just

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can't do it. I love them all. And then he

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wrote The Grand Tour and actually right after name he

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wrote Dear World, which Angela Lansbury also started and it

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won her second Tony Award. So you know, he was

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a little bitch, not shocked, but I think disappointed because

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his work was so good that the shows didn't reach

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the same kind of critical acclaim as the first three.

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And then Lakage comes his way and the rest they

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say is history.

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Yeah, yeah, well that is, and talk about timing and

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casting for that. Everything about it was just exquisitely done

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and it had such a message that I think was

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ahead of its time.

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Well it was. It also came out at a very

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important time. It was nineteen eighty three, and this was

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before the scourge of AIDS just yet us you know,

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we could. I mean, it was there, but it wasn't

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in the eye of the public, so to speak. And

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it was also before gay rights really too cold. So

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they made a wonderful choice. They felt if they could

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win the hearts and minds of the general public, then

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the public accept the love story between two gay men

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on stage, which was quite revolutionary, including that kiss. But

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I'll never forget the first time those two men kissed

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on stage. There was a standing ovation when they realized,

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they realized that they believed that love story and at

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its core lakaj was wially about family. So the audience

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understood that, you know, gay men could have families, and

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then it translated to you know all aspects, you know, gay, lesbian,

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lgb Q I. You know, I get my letters mixed

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up sometimes I don't want to miss one of them.

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But I think it was hugely important. But then there

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was sort of a tragedy at the six month period,

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all but one Cajal had died from AIDS. Oh my god,

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and we were really hit with this scourge of ets.

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So when you hear someone sing I am what I am? Now,

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who touches you in a place that you just get?

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I mean, it's so deep, it's so deep. And again

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the genius of a Jerry Hermann's song is that just

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about anybody can sing it and it means something very important.

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If you hear.

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Leslie ogham sing I am what I am?

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I know.

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It's an anthem and no matter what age you are,

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it touches you It's about acceptance.

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It's saying, hey, look here I am. I've come out

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of my closet. It's like taking off all your clothes

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and on stage and turning around very slowly and saying, hey,

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I am what I am. You can accept me or not,

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but this is who I am. That's a lot of courage,

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that's a lot of strength.

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Now you were so close to him.

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What was it? I know they're all his favorite children,

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Which do you think it was really the one that

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held his heart?

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The closest.

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Song or show both. I think he was probably proudest

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of and I was Beautiful from Dear World, because he

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talked about how he stripped every extraneous thing away from

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the song. It was just pure emotion. There wasn't anything

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extra in that song, and that's very hard to do.

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I mean, I think part of the genius of Jerry

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Herman is that he was able to simply and melodically

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put forth emotion in a song, but it never became cliche.

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And that's really hard to do. And that's because he

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lived in a certain kind of truth. And I think

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he was very very proud of that song. I think

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the counterpoint in the Tea Party in der world. That's

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pretty sophisticated stuff. So you know, of course all of

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lakage I Am what I Am is a very important song.

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There's another song in Grand Tour called I'll be Here Tomorrow,

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and I always felt it was maybe a little autobiographical.

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Okay, okay, you know, so there's.

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So So the answer is, I don't know that you

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00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:33.559
can necessarily say there was a favorite song, favorite show,

468
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:39.599
But I know Mac and Mabel was certainly up there incredible.

469
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:43.680
But this is wonderful for you to be able to

470
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:48.240
share your special insights having been so close to him.

471
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:51.480
I mean, he almost liked better than his mother.

472
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:56.000
How good does it get? It can't get any better?

473
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.200
Well, there was such love and respect between the two

474
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:04.319
of us, and how can I say this? It was

475
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:07.599
just a very pure relationship and there was never a

476
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:10.720
crossword between us in all the time.

477
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:12.880
It was just it was real love.

478
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:16.039
Oh, this is great because you always hope you're gonna

479
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:19.799
get the people you think are incredible in real life.

480
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:23.440
Other people feel that way about them, the people closest

481
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:25.599
to them, And I can tell that's the way you

482
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:26.559
feel about it.

483
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:28.599
Did you call him uncle Jerry?

484
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:32.240
Or when I was younger, I called him uncle Jerry,

485
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:36.000
and obviously when I got older, it was Jerry and

486
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:39.960
sometimes lightning dust strike twice. He was like the most

487
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.319
perfect godfather when I was a kid, so I asked

488
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:43.839
him to be my daughter's godfather.

489
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:44.839
Oh my gosh.

490
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:50.319
And so it inspired a song, and he wrote the

491
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:55.359
theme song for the movie Barney's World of Imagination, Barney movie.

492
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:58.960
And Sarah was pretty little and she had I think

493
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.119
I had like six Barnie the dinosaurs. I had to

494
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:04.480
constantly watch them because that was her lovey. And so

495
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:08.359
Cheryl Leach asked Jerry to write the theme song for

496
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:13.160
the new movie, only because of my daughter's love of this,

497
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:18.279
you know character. He said yes, and it was a

498
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:22.680
three day process and they played with the Barney you know,

499
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.759
odd nauseum in the after the second day he said, Jamie,

500
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:27.519
he said, I don't know if I can do this

501
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:31.759
or not. And the third day, like that got it

502
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:35.240
and he just said, I understand now, Barney is the conduit.

503
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:39.400
It's the window into a child's world of imagination. And

504
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:42.880
we always lived very very close to one another. So

505
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:46.240
he ran down the hill, went to his piano, wrote

506
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:48.960
the song, came back up the Hill and played Barney's

507
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:50.920
World of Imagination for us.

508
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:56.039
Oh thank you. That is so special, so very special.

509
00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:59.440
You know We're gonna take a break, and I have

510
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:04.000
something special to share with everyone. After eighty some years,

511
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:08.400
I have written my memoir and it is now available

512
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:10.359
all Amazon.

513
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:22.359
Introducing Living and Dying Without Whining, a Memoir eighty Years

514
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:29.279
of Magical Moments, written by January Jones. Miss Jones shares

515
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:33.319
her most exciting and magical moments.

516
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:43.519
Patriotic moments landing on aircraft carrier USS Carl Vincent, staying overnight.

517
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:52.720
Then catapulting off, revealing moments working for the CIA for

518
00:33:52.839 --> 00:34:02.400
five years. Thrilling and comforting moments meeting Charles Lindbergh and

519
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:11.400
Neil Armstrong together, Sassy moments swinging sixties and the seventies,

520
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:19.800
the Age of Aquarius, Exciting moments as a TV contestant

521
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:28.320
on Jokers Wild and Family Feud, Reality moments playing in

522
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:34.280
the World Series of Golf on Reality TV. Career moments

523
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:42.599
as a stewardess for Eastern Airlines, Touching moments with meeting

524
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:47.760
a half brother she never knew about, with many many

525
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:54.039
more magical moments. Living and Dying Without Whining.

526
00:34:54.360 --> 00:35:01.360
A memoir Eighty Years of Magical Moments, written by January Jones,

527
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:10.559
available at Amazon dot com and Audible dot com.

528
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:14.559
You know, I had so much fun writing my memoir.

529
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:19.239
I'm curious to know. Did Jerry ever write one himself?

530
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:24.760
Jerry participated. There were three books that he wrote. One

531
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:27.599
focus more on lyrics, the other one about his life.

532
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:31.639
But he kind of shares, sort of shares it all,

533
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:36.599
you know, from the beginning all the way probably through

534
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:44.280
his eighties. Wow, So yeah, he's yeah, it was he had.

535
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:45.519
He had quite a life.

536
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:48.639
Oh, I'm sure, and I can't wait to read it.

537
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:53.679
And I know from personal experience, so it's not an

538
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:54.639
easy thing to do.

539
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:55.800
And sometimes it's.

540
00:35:55.760 --> 00:36:01.320
Very hard to be about honest about yourself, and you know,

541
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:04.960
it's it's kind of a tell all of your own life.

542
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.239
When you look back at his life that he was

543
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:12.679
so wonderful and he was able to share with you.

544
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:18.239
What do you have any special memories of growing up

545
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:21.599
knowing did you know how famous he was? Well?

546
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:25.239
Eventually, I mean, you know, when he took me to

547
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:28.480
sea Milk and Honey, he put me on his shoulders afterwards,

548
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:31.360
and people were just like pawing at him and I

549
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:33.599
got quite upset. I said, you know, get away, this

550
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:35.760
is my uncle Jerry, not your uncle Jerry. You know,

551
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:38.519
I didn't quite I didn't quite understand. But Jedy was

552
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:42.760
a very shy man. He was very introverted, and he

553
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:46.159
didn't seek the limelight. He was just so incredibly talented

554
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:52.440
that everybody wanted, you know, a piece of him. My

555
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:57.360
personal the things that resonate in my heart are the

556
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:02.119
conversations that we had, the great meals we had. Laughing, God,

557
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:06.920
the laughter was unbelievable, but a perfect example of that.

558
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:09.800
I went to an old girls' school in New York

559
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:12.480
and we had a half day on Fridays. So when

560
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.199
Jerry was in town, he would often pick me up

561
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:17.840
from school, because you know, that's kind of how it

562
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:19.960
had to be. You had to be picked up or

563
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.920
get on a bus or something, and you would walk

564
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:26.360
down Madison Avenue and we'd have a little tea and

565
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:29.320
cookie or croissant at de la se de Lico busk,

566
00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:31.440
you know, and then we would go on to the

567
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:34.440
Metropolitan Museum of Art or to the Frick or whatever.

568
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:37.840
So okay, and he was always you know, I was

569
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:40.960
in the uniform, and he was always impeccably dressed, and he,

570
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:43.679
you know, he had magnificent style.

571
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.119
And fashion and so surprised me.

572
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:50.760
So we were walking along, you know, the galleries at

573
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:54.400
the Metropolitan Museum of Art, and we would talk about

574
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:57.599
a myriad of things, and then we decided we were

575
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:01.559
going to rename the paintings. And we happened to wander

576
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:04.679
into the religious section and then I looked at the

577
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.679
painting of the Virgin Mary and I said, look what

578
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:12.000
happened to Mabel, which was one of the Well, don't ask.

579
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.480
We were on the floor laughing. He and his you know,

580
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:20.280
gorgeous probably Wilts Bashford suit. I am in my uniform

581
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:22.760
and we cannot catch our breath and we are promptly

582
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:27.400
escorted out of the met So, you know, it was

583
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:30.599
like that. That was life with Jerry.

584
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:31.119
You know.

585
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:34.400
He was so intelligent and you put things together so quickly.

586
00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:37.719
You know, even when we would play games together, he

587
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.519
was just light years ahead of everyone else. He loves

588
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:44.840
scrabble and I remember when I was a child, he

589
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:47.519
had a fabulous home on Fire Island. He loved Fire

590
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:49.480
Island when he was living in New York, and he

591
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:53.840
had a cat named Missus Levi who really loved him.

592
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:56.639
This was a black cat. She was gorgeous, but not

593
00:38:56.920 --> 00:39:00.559
most friendly cat. And so Jerry and I were on

594
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:04.800
the floor playing pickup sticks and missus leeve I thought

595
00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:06.960
this was an awful lot of fun. She came to

596
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:11.000
investigate and she starts pawing it. Then he goes, missus

597
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:12.760
LEVI you can't cheat.

598
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:24.199
Oh he sounds like he was just a sweet, sweet person.

599
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:28.239
He was a sweet person. He was a lot of fun.

600
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:34.199
He also had he had a very good barometer as

601
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:36.719
to what was right and what was wrong. He was

602
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:40.440
just always very appropriate, and he made great advice, and

603
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:43.119
he really cared. And I mean to have someone in

604
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:47.800
your life. I've always felt that there are small parts

605
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:51.000
of the music of Lakaja Fall that were a little

606
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.960
bit about of our relationship, like look over there, somebody

607
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:57.599
cares that much. I always felt that he cared that

608
00:39:57.840 --> 00:39:58.800
much about me.

609
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:05.880
Oh, Special, Special, You know it makes me curious with

610
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:10.960
your perspective and your incredible memories and behind the scenes

611
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:14.800
take on things. Have you written a book about him

612
00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:17.119
or would you ever consider doing that?

613
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:22.639
You know the answer is never say never. I can't,

614
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:28.840
but you know, my main purpose is I want to

615
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:33.800
make sure that people have access to and hear and

616
00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:37.679
see his incredible music and shows. That to be is

617
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:39.840
the best way if you want to know about Jerry,

618
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:43.519
go see one of his shows. Because his philosophy, his

619
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:45.480
thoughts on life, it's all.

620
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:47.239
In the music. It's right there.

621
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:51.119
It's an open book, trually, so you really don't need

622
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:56.639
to write another book. I'm curious how did he react

623
00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:01.920
and how did he feel about when these masterpieces that

624
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:05.159
he had created were they into film.

625
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:08.400
Was he involved with it, did he enjoy it, or

626
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:09.719
was it That's.

627
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:13.039
A really good question. I don't think he loved either

628
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:17.559
one of his films. I think over time he came

629
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:22.159
to appreciate Hello Dolly. I think at the time he

630
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:26.719
thought streisand was a little bit too young to play Dolly,

631
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:29.320
But as time went on, I think he came to

632
00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:34.239
realize she did an amazing job. Maine was a little

633
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:39.639
bit more problematic. And at that time, you know, Broadway

634
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:43.599
was Broadway, Hollywood was Hollywood, so you know, maybe when

635
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:46.039
it came to the music and orchestrations, he had a

636
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:49.320
little bit more safe, but in terms of directorial or

637
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:53.159
casting choices, not so much. And as a matter of fact,

638
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:56.079
he felt so badly that he never had a great

639
00:41:56.119 --> 00:42:02.360
piece of film that showcase his his work that when

640
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:06.599
he was not doing so well in the early nineties,

641
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:12.400
I was able to give him the gift of an

642
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:15.320
evening with Jerry Herman at the Hollywood Bowl that was

643
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:19.320
put on DVD and the great I mean you had

644
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:22.960
Carol Channing, you had Rita Moreno, you had Michael Feinstein,

645
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:28.199
who had Lorna Louff. I mean, I mean it was

646
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:33.000
sort of like the Who's Who of Broadway and they

647
00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:38.119
all sang the song as the Ugghams performed Leeroy Reheims.

648
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:42.440
I encourage you to check out the DVD. I'm sure

649
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:47.480
that's on Amazon as well, and it's quite quite something.

650
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:50.840
And Jerry was so proud of that because between the

651
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:56.920
orchestrations and the performances, he was over the moon.

652
00:42:57.320 --> 00:42:59.559
Oh that's that. I would have loved to have been

653
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:00.519
there and credible.

654
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:03.440
That brings me to my next question, as I know

655
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:06.519
you're very busy with the two auctions and it must

656
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:10.960
be a tremendous job to catalog and to get this

657
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:13.480
all put together. And I take my hat off to you,

658
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:18.000
but down the road, when your life calms down and

659
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:21.960
you don't have that much to do. If that ever happens,

660
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.920
do you think you could possibly put together a documentary

661
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:27.239
about his lung?

662
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:28.880
Wouldn't that be something?

663
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:31.679
It would so I think there is one by Ambert

664
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:35.719
Edwards that there's one that exists, but it would be wonderful.

665
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:37.760
Tod you sort of, you know, pick up where she

666
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:40.039
left off, and again, there are a lot of things

667
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:43.119
that you cannot include, so that that would be very interesting.

668
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:48.679
And Jerry wrote a concept album called Miss Spectacular is

669
00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:54.159
based on a Walter Mitty concept and it has never

670
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:56.400
been produced before. It was supposed to be produced in

671
00:43:56.480 --> 00:44:00.000
Las Vegas, and there were a whole set of circumstances

672
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.880
is that made it impossible. But I really hope to

673
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:05.320
get that up and running in the not too distant

674
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:08.880
future because everyone says, oh, just wish there were one

675
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:12.320
more Jerry Herman musical, and what would like to deliver that?

676
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:18.119
Oh? Oh, well, that's something I would really look forward to.

677
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:21.440
You know, we've gotten into this situation in the evenings.

678
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:22.880
There are so many.

679
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:30.400
Amazing, incredible documentaries that are being made available and all

680
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:31.159
of the streaming.

681
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:32.840
I'm just thrilled with it.

682
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:37.320
And he would be a perfect subject just because of

683
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:41.599
the scope of his career. And you know, it's the time,

684
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.519
because this time age, so many things were not said,

685
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.280
We're not done, couldn't be said, couldn't be done. And

686
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:52.320
he kind of broke through that, didn't me, he.

687
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:55.239
Broke through it. But more than anything, I'm as sent

688
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:57.960
Jerry Herman optimism.

689
00:44:58.119 --> 00:44:59.400
Yes, we need.

690
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:06.480
That, really need that. And through his lyrics, and obviously

691
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:09.800
you know, the music and the lyrics they do all

692
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:13.880
go together because the music furthers the emotion of the lyrics.

693
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:17.960
But there's there's always something to look forward to, there's

694
00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:20.719
always something to strive for. If there's a problem, you know,

695
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.880
he says you can make a difference, or you know,

696
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:28.239
let's let's look at memes about bigotry. And you know,

697
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:33.199
here Gooch was ostracized because she was an unwed mother.

698
00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:38.400
Look how far we've come in life. It's amazing. But

699
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:42.400
he asks you to, you know, to look at that

700
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:46.079
or try something different, open a new window. I mean,

701
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:48.800
all of his lyrics.

702
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:53.280
Yeah, I'm so glad that you're stepping forward and sharing

703
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:59.480
him and sharing his auctions. And I think it's so

704
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:03.840
important because things can tend to get negative lately, and

705
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:05.880
that's not the way he was.

706
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:07.920
Oh, we're not going to let that happen. And you

707
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:11.199
know what, We're not going to let that happen. There's

708
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:14.840
too much Jerry Herman music that makes it puts a

709
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you know, a little bounce in our step and you know,

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brings a smile to our face. And yeah, we all

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need Jerry Herman music to especially during troubling times. Right now,

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let's rude away and make it the best of times.

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Oh, and you know, I have to tell you. I

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can't tell you how many birthday parties.

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You know, when you get to be my age, these

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birthday parties, they keep rolling around and the best of times.

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I've heard it all the time and we all just

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sing and everyone kind of sways. It just speaks to

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my heart. It speaks to everyone's heart. It's part of

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the ananthem for people who are aging, trying to age

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grace fully, don't you agree?

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I do? And if you kind of bookend his lyrics,

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if you go to Milk and Honey, there's a song

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called Let's not waste a moment, Let's not waste a day,

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And you have that as a young man, to the

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best of times, and I really think that he really

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arts himself musically in a beautiful sort of a way.

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Brilliant.

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The man was just brilliant, and we were so lucky

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to be able to witness it's brilliance spread across Broadway

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and Hollywood and through the entertainment world.

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At this point, I would love to make you know

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you refer to yourself as a grandmother and everything else.

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I cannot begin to tell you the number of people

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that tell me their grandmother was the first person to

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take them to a Broadway show. And to all the

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grandmothers and grandfathers out there, please your grandchildren to a

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Broadway show because it opens up a world that it's

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life changing.

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Oh yeah, and I've tried to do that with my

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seven grandchildren when they get down here to visit Sarasota.

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We have subscriptions to all the theater programs here, and

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I always get extra tickets when we're in town.

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Just so they can experience.

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And there's nothing like that theater going up and the

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world just.

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Changes right in front of you.

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It's so true.

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Yeah, yeah, I enjoy sharing it with my husband and

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all my family, and I have enjoyed sharing you Jane.

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Thank you and thank you for having me and you're

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an inspiration.

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Oh well, it's been fun having you and I hope

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my listeners, I hope you've all enjoyed Jane as much

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as I have today. I hope you'll check out the

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auctions and support it and go check the catalog next Thursday,

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looking forward to welcoming a Pulitzer winner. The author of

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The Man Cheerian Journalists will be with us. That'll be wonderful.

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Thank you for entering the No Wine Zone with me.

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Share our stories and show with everyone you know, and

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remember you need to stop whining and then stop start

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smiling again and again. And if that doesn't work, then

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you can just go out and start eating chocolate. Yeah,

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lots and lots of chocolate, and be sure to glitter

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and glow until we need again.

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Take care and stay safe. Bye bye.

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We want to thank you for listening to January Jones

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