January Jones sharing The Lucy Book with Show Business Walking Encyclopedia- Geoffrey Mark

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Who is January Jones. She is
not a young, beautiful, talented

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actress on Madman. She is not
an older, gorgeous exotic dancer from The

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Johnny Carson Show. She is an
author and she wrote Thou Show Not Why

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the Eleventh Commandment that rates number one
at Amazon dot com. She is a

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reality TV golf personality with World High
Stakes Golf televised on hd Net. She

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is a huge umerist and why knowlogist
expert. She is your featured host today

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on January Jones sharing success stories.
So sit back, relax, and get

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ready to laugh and listen to Ms
Jones with her eclectic roster of guests as

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you learn life's lessons. These stories
plus sharing equal success. Welcome and remember

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beware because you are entering the no
whining world of January Jones. Hello everyone,

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I hope you're having a terrific day. I'm January Jones and I'd like

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to welcome you to our podcast today. As you can see, I'm wearing

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my glitter hat. Like Glitter Caine, I'm getting ready to promote my new

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brand, glitter Granny Gifts, as
an associate affiliate selling at Amazon dot com.

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I'll be selling everything that glitters and
glows to give and get. Soon,

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we'll be launching our website and I'll
tell you about it more when it

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gets closer. Not for my listeners, let me ask you a question.

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Do you remember the Golden Age of
television? Oh? Yeah, I think

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we all do. Did you tell
me did you have your own favorite show,

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the one you really loved watching?
Well, one of my favorite shows

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was I Love Lucy? How about
you? And I think pretty much everyone

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loved Lucy then and now still.
Have you ever met someone who was right

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there during the making of I Love
Lucy? He was there during the Golden

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Age? Can you imagine what that
would have been like? Tell me have

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you ever heard of about an incredible
bull book entitled the Lucy Book. Now,

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this book is called the Bible by
Lucy fans all over the world.

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If you can answer yes or maybe
to any of my questions, then you

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are in the right place and welcome
to January Jones Sharing Senior Success. So

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now it's time to rest, relax, Go get some wine, get some

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cheese and crackers, and join us
in the no Wine cell. Now let

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me tell you a little bit about
my guest today. Critics have called this

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guest a walking encyclopedia of show business
history. He was born in Brooklyn,

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New York, raised all over the
country, and I has spent his entire

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life in one part of show business
or the other. He has appeared off

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Broadway and in Summerstock. He's been
a singer and a stand up comedian.

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He is the proud recipient of an
Emmy Award and also of a Grammy Award

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nomination. He also writes and produces
documentaries and reality shows. He is the

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author of The Lucy Book, which
I said is the Bible for all Lucy

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Frands. I'd like to welcome you
today to my show. Jeffrey Mark Hi,

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Jeffrey. Well, this guy sounds
brilliant. I can't wait to hear

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what he has to say. That's
number one, and number two is I'll

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be your first customer because all I
wear are things that sparkle. Oh good,

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wonderful. Well, I'll have to
get you back on the show when

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I really get into the glitter and
start promoting how well you know, I'm

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going to be the glitter Granny,
So you're going to be my new glitter

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guy. I could be a glitter
Pappy if that's okay, Okay, for

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sure, Yeah, definitely, I'll
have you back once we get that launched.

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This is so exciting to have you
on the show. I know you've

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been in show business in that whole
thing for many, many years. Fifty

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years yeah, oh fifty years.
Wow, that's almost I've been married to

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my husband fifty four years. So
that's why this show is called Senior Success

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be Yeah, we cater to seniors, especially those that want to glitter and

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glow just like us. For sure, the Heavenly Choir is going. Oh

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okay, Jeffrey, let's start back
with Born in Brooklyn. Share a little

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bit about your background, who your
early mentors were, who inspired you and

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tell us about your journey. Good
Heavens well, I consider myself, first

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of all, to be the luckiest
son of a gun on the planet.

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I was born at a time in
New York City where to fill up the

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hours of television every day they were
showing really old movies and very very old

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television shows, shows that were already
old when I was a kid. So

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if you were a baby boomer kid
in New York, you knew who Al

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Jolson was, and Fanny Bryce and
Eddie Canther. You knew the singers your

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grandparents liked. You knew the singers
your parents liked, and you could see

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the Beatles. He had Sullivan show, especially in my house because the man

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who brought him to the Bernstein was
my cousin. So in the house to

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get that encyclopedic knowledge of show business, I wouldn't have been in a better

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place. I stepped on a stage
for the first time when I was four

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and I sang Demlis from South Pacific. They threw a mustache on me with

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eyebrow pencil and put a beret on
me and pushed me out and there I

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was, and it was like,
oh, this is the most natural thing

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in the world to do. Oh, and that's how it felt. And

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I did amateur stuff until I hit
fifteen, and then at fifteen I went

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professional. Really that's young. Well, you know again, you ask about

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my background, and I'm trying to
make light of things that are kind of

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serious. Actually, my parents were
both mentally ill, and my childhood was

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not terribly happy. Yes, and
my father freaked out one day and I

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called a girlfriend of mine. I
said, I'm afraid he's going to hurt

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me. She said, grab a
piece of sheet music and meet me downstairs

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in ten minutes. Okay, And
I said okay. And I think we

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were halfway to Washington, d C. Before she said to me, Oh,

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by the way, you're going to
an audition today for a dinner theater.

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I okay, Well, I sang, my darling, my darling.

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I've wanted to call you my darling
from Where's Charlie? Oh yeah, I

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got the part. They didn't care, but I didn't have a picture or

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a resume or I never done anything
professionally before I got a speaking part playing

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an adult. Oh gosh. And
that was fifteen and a half. At

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sixteen, I made my first movie
with Peter Fonda. At seventeen, I

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was throwing off Broadway in a musical. Eighteen I was working at the Playboy

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Club, And you know here we
are. Wow, Listen, starting off

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that young, Obviously you didn't have
an agent and you were just kind of

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flying by the seat of your pants
and with the help of a wonderful friend.

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Is was that a time when you
had to have a sag card?

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Or where the rules or what are
the restrictions? Sure the rules haven't changed

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through the years. Really, to
be a professional, if you want to

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work on the stage, you have
to belong to actor's equity. Okay,

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that happened for me. Hole was
I seventeen? Maybe? And if you

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want to work on television or in
films, you have to belong to what's

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now called sag aftra. They used
to be two different unions. Look,

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there is the enormous fun. You
know, I'm a stand up comedian,

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I'm a jazz singer, I'm a
theater person. All the different hats I

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wear got it. And he can
tell you about how all the glitter came

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to me because it was somebody else's
idea, not mine. But to do

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all of the things you do Besides
the fun, there is incredible hard work

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and look and the responsibility of being
a professional. The glitter I don't really

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wear glitter. I wear sequence,
but the sparkly stuff was Rip Taylor's idea.

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Remember Tailor, the wonderful comedian.
Oh, yes, for sure.

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I loved him. Yeah, I
loved him too. We were very,

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very close friends. Rip came to
see me perform in Los Angeles decades ago

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and he said, Jeff, I
want to talk to you. Let's go

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out to dinner. And we went
to a then very famous show business hangout

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called Hamburger Hamlet, Oh yeah,
Boulevard and if you ate there, there

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was a special celebrity room and it
was like a party. Everybody knew everybody

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and you can just have a ball
there another parted place. I wish we're

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still here. But he sat me
down and we ordered and he said,

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Jeff, oh, by the way, language on this show. Am I

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allowed to use language? Or do
I have to use euphemisms? Oh?

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You can use any language you want. He said, Jeff, you are

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magic on stage, but you dressed
like a fucking accountant. And if you

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can hear that coming out of Rip's
mouth, Oh yeah, for sure,

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and he sent me shopping and I
ended up with one hat. I was

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going on a cruise for the first
time as a performer, and the audience

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went wild for it. I couldn't
not have it on my head. They

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were so happy with it. The
next cruise with three hats, the next

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cruise with six hats and a vest
I now have an entire huge closet.

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Oh my god, Sequin jackets,
seek sequin vests, seekin shirts, sequin

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hats, sequin shoes, and and
and the jewelry to go with that.

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And it gave me a brand,
which is really important if you want to

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be in big time show business.
That guy, oh, he's that guy

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who kind of looks like Elton John
and wears all this stuff. That that

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is that My career went zoomi zoomy, zoom me up in the air.

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Oh my god. This is like
incredible because right now, as I said

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earlier, I'm in the process of
launching a brand, and I've become obsessed

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with you know, all things glitter
like you. Well, I think I

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should be your spokesperson. We'll talk
about that off camera. We will,

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definitely and I did. I was
when I invited you on the show.

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I wasn't really aware of your glitter
glamour history, and for me to have

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a glitter guy on my show is
just perfect. Yeah, I want that

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water bottle oh oh to dive for. Listen, we're gonna take a break.

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And this is for people who whine, or if you know someone who's

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a whiner. Too many people lately, there's a whining epidemic in our world.

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People are even whining about whining.
Are you sick and tired of listening

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to everyone whining all the time?
So was January Jones, the author of

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Thou Shalt Not Whine, The Eleventh
Commandment that reached number one at Amazon dot

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com. Miss Jones based her book
on a survey of the top ten things

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that people whine about at all ages
and all stages of life. January is

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a success coach that can tell you
how to help others. When you buy

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Thou Shalt Not Whine The Eleventh Commandment, you'll find out what people whine about

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and how to stop them from whining. This is the perfect gift book to

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give or get for any occasion.
Thou Shalt Not Whine was voted the best

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gift to be given anonymously for those
special people in your life. Miss Jones

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is an internationally known author in the
style of Irma Bomback, specializing in housewife

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humor. With her book being published
in Korea and China. You can find

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Thou Shall Not Whine at Amazon dot
com. Welcome back with my perfect laborous

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guests. Now I must tell you
a story because of the commercial years put

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up. Okay, in the mid
did you know, by the way,

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I'm Jewish? Just in case anyone, because you'll understand why I'm saying this

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in the moment. Did you know
in the mid night around nineteen sixty five

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it took a pole? And do
you know what the favorite Jewish wine was?

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I only I only know Man of
Chevitz. That's the only wine I

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know. Oh, the favorite Jewish
wine in nineteen sixty five was I want

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to go to Miami? Of course, of course, Well, yeah,

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and a lot. I don't want
letters kids, I'm Jewish. That's a

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joke. Don't don't, don't,
don't don't. Now, my listeners are

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too mature to get upset about jokes
like that. They love those kind of

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jokes. Those are my favorite.
Yes, Jewish women do are tended.

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They are known for whining. But
you know, as a matter of fact,

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most women have I think people whine, whether you do it to your

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spouse or your best friend, or
you're one of those people who does it

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all the time. I try so
hard not to be that way, because

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it's negative energy that does no one
any good at all. One of the

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success things is not feeling that way. It's finding the good and the positive

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and well, I've had a bad
day, but these good things did happen,

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and I've got tomorrow to do more
good things. And how fabulous do

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I look? By the way?
Definitely times I have to say that to

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myself. It's like, no,
there's no constant badness. It comes and

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it goes, and I sway with
it and I remain with a smile on

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my face. Oh for sure.
Well, it's funny when I think back

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on it. I wrote that book
thirty years ago, so I've been preaching

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the no whining mantra for a long
time since you Worritina. Yes, yes,

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for sure, And it's a message
that I think we need to hear

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more now than ever. I think
that there's more going on in the world

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that our people are negative and depressed
about, and so I feel that this

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book is as relevant as when I
wrote it, actually more so than thirty

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years ago. So I'm it is
party you're talking about senior success. I

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think one of the hallmarks of senior
success is not whining and not feeling sorry

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for yourself and accepting that as we
age, things change. And you know

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what, that's okay. It's okay
for things to change, and if you

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acknowledge them changes. You know,
I was a dancer, a professional dancer

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when I was young. I was
a model when I was young. Well,

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no one's asking me to take my
shirt off anymore to model, you

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know. I haven't won of my
tap shoes and quite a while. Things

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change. On the other hand,
I became a star, and I wasn't

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that when I was very young.
Some good things and bad things. You

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know. I'm in Palm Springs with
the lovely weather, and yeah, I

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mean, look this gorgeous office I
have. How wonderful to create things here

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and do my radio show plug plug
Plug Jeffrey Mark plays Ella. For every

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week, I'd choose a theme of
Bellows music and tell you the insider stories

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of how it was made. This
particular week, it's Ella and Louis Armstrong.

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There are about that they made together. Oh so glad to hear you

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have a podcast too. Isn't this
a fun radio and a radio show both?

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Okay? I do too. Isn't
this a fun thing to do?

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I love it. I love to
perform, you know, I'm one of

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those people I open the refrigerator because
the spotlight hits me, I start singing

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a song. You know, I'm
not so crazy about the business part of

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the business sometimes, but but performing
anytime I get to be on a stage

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hold a microphone in my hand like
this one here, I'm happy and fulfilled

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and my soul feels good and I
just when I finish, I say,

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I'm the luckiest because if I were
to give you the names of all the

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people, famous people who have helped
me through the years, you wouldn't have

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time in a half an hour to
even just listen to the names. Oh

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we're going to be on longer than
a half hour, by okay. I'm

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with you as long as you want
me for, you know, Lucy Ollball,

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Milton Burrell, Steve Allen, Jack
Carter, the Peter Marshall, Louise,

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Louis and I, Lucy Arnaz uh
rude to Lee, on and on

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and on and on and on,
Ella Ella Fitzgerald herself. I love what

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I'm doing, and I especially love
sharing senior stories from someone like you and

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myself. And I think when seniors
share their stories, there's so much to

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learn, and there's such a great
way to encourage other seniors and younger people

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too. It's the more we share
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less whining. I feel it's a
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it goes to what you're saying.
One evening, I found myself in

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a Broadway theater backstage in Mary Martin's
dressing room, and she allowed me to

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sit at her feet for two hours
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cookies to me. And the best
advice I got you said, she said,

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As you get older, you one
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and over again, or live on
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that. She had ethel Merman.
We're very close friends, but Mermyn spent

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the last fifteen years of her life
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the same stories over and over and
over again. She said, don't do

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that. Jeffrey. Don't think if
you have successes or hit songs that you

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need to constantly remind people. She
said, Always try for something new,

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lug into something new creatively, and
you will always stay young. Now that's

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what keeps you relevant. Let's talk
about Lucy. Now, sure, this

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wonderful book the Bible? How long
ago did you write it? And how

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I'm always curious as an author,
how long did it take you to put

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this book together? I didn't know
it, but I started writing this a

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book when I was about two years
old. Really well, I'm a strange

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guy. If you haven't figured that
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strange in a nice way, of
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of Lucy. Yeah, first run
I Love Lucy. The only one I

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saw was the very last of the
hour long specials with Ernie Kolovac's and his

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wife that I saw live, you
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not a rerun of but I Love
Lucy the half hour version. I

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never saw those. I was too
young, so i'd watch them in reruns,

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and I began to notice, Oh, look her hair is Oh that's

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the same dress she was. Oh
wait a minute, that looks like they

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had to redo that little I don't
know why my little two year old brain

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focused on this stuff, but it
did. So I did research just from

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my own amusement or amazement about first
Miss Ball. I meant all of classic

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television in the eighties. Miss Ball
came to New York, so it's now

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called the Paley Center to do a
symposium questions and answers, and I got

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to ask a question. First of
all, I made Lucille Ball laugh,

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which is like my happiest day.
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She really couldn't see the audience very
well. Her husband Gary Morton was

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sitting on the edge of the stage
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that young man out there with the
red beard. And Gary said, Lucy,

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if there's nobody in the audience with
a red beard? Yes, Gary,

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there he is right there. And
they had to be the microphone and

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I said, well, miss Ball, there's not much left on top,

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but there is plenty of red beard. And howled okay, I said to

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her, your friend Jack Benny.
That got her attention. Your friend Jack

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Benny said. The reason people to
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characters douche Stick, not every single
week, and not just one, several

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and they come in looking to see
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week. I said, you gave
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gave up the crying jag when you
know Ahricke, and you gave up now

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I used the word because she knew
what it meant, the spider, the

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spiders when she went oh, and
I said to you, why did you

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give those up? And she kind
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she said, young man, that
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comedy to me. She spent the
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Happily, I had a buddy with
me who took shorthand took every word she

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said. And when she finished,
she said, you know, you ought

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to write a book. And that's
where germ of writing or really writing a

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book. Well, the first book
I wrote was about Ella Fitzgerald and it

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was a best seller and people were
clamoring for me to write a second book.

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Well why not, Lucy? So
I interviewed everybody who was still alive

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would ever work with her on television? Because the book is just about her

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television career really Live TB Till she
died, and the show by show by

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show, who was there, who
wrote it, who produced it, a

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synopsis of what was going on,
and then insider stories about how that particular

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thing, whether it was a commercial
variety show or her own show, a

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special commercial anything. And Steve Allen
wrote the forward from me for that Oh

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Free, and Milton Borough wrote a
blurb for the back cop for free Wow.

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And I will announce that the new
Lucy book is coming out next year

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with even more interviews, and I'm
adding in her films and her radio so

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that her career will be between two
covers. And Fran Dresher has already written

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a wonderful forward for that book.
I am very grateful to Lucy Elball and

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Dessi Arnez, their children, Lucy
Arnez and Dessi Junior have been wonderful friends

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to me and hopefully I today and
Lucy fans all over the world know me.

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And it's a lovely, lovely combination
of a passion, my talent,

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and I filled a need because there
are plenty of books written about miss Ball

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and mister Arnez, about their so
called personal lives. And I'm saying it

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like this because I know who all
the authors are, I know them personally,

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I don't I'm not wrapping any one
of them in particular. But a

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lot of what was written turned out
to not really be true, and there

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was nothing written about her actual work
professional. So sorry for me. I'm

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a little bit older than you,
darling, but I was there for the

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original shows, and I can remember
to this day our world literally stopped when

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little Ricky was born. That was
just like for my world. It was

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the most exciting thing I had ever
seen on television, and it was one

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of a kind because there was this
thing. Now remind yourselves, folks,

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I love Lucy started in nineteen fifty
one. Television didn't really start called nineteen

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forty eight, so this is really
early in television's life. It was but

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little tiny box. It's at home. So there was this thing about nothing

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naughty, nothing sexual. All becomes
pregnant and they trying to decide, well,

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how do we hide her? Instead, Jess Oppenheimer, I said,

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we're not gonna hide her. We're
gonna write it into the show. It

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was her second child, Lucy Arnez
had been born just like like six weeks

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before the first episode of I Love
Lucy was filled. Oh my god.

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So she had two kids very close
in age. All was forty when the

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first child was born, or almost
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Lucy ornees so they were gonna have
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caesarean once, you had to have
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the one who came out. And
uh, they could work it out that

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little Ricky be born the same day
that little Dessi was born. And let's

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see and then and at that time, did they know if it was going

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to be a boy. Oh no. They wrote it as a boy only

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because they had a girl at home, and this way, if it was

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another girl, they wouldn't be jealous. You know, they tried. They

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were thinking ahead of Lucy Arnez's feelings. Okay, why aren' I am Michelle,

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to be a boy whether she had
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you know, right up, right
now, we have to take a

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break. Of course, you know
it's sixty years later and people are still

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asking who killed Kennedy. Let me
ask you a question, are you still

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wondering who killed Kennedy? Over fifty
years later? The assassination is still a

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mystery. It is unfinished business for
our country. Now get ready for a

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theory that you've never heard before.
But we'll make more sense than any other

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conspiracy theory that you've ever heard in
the past. January Jones speaks the unspeakable

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in her book Jackie, Ari and
jack The tragic love triangle connecting Jackie and

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aristotalonases romantically prior to JFK's assassination.
Did you know that Ari was Jackie's guest

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in the White House during the JFK
funeral. He was the only non family

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member who was invited by Jackie to
stay there during the funeral. Aristotlonass was

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one of the wealthiest men in the
world, with the means, the motive,

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and the money to order an assassination
that was the perfect crime of the

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last century. Are needed class and
Jackie needed cash. They were perfect for

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each other. Now, what is
Camelot? It is but another Tragic Love

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Triangle, Jackie, Ari and Jack
is available at January Jones dot com,

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Amazon dot com and audiobooks dot com. Read by MS Jones, Welcome Back

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with Glitter, Granny Visiting with Glitter, Jeffrey. Let's tell you I knew

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missus Onassis in New York when I
was first getting started in show business.

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I remember I said, I was
on the Playboy Club. A man who

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produced the show was named Peter Jackson, not the film Peter Jackson, but

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a p Asian man who did topless
variety shows, live variety shows like they

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did in Paris. He did them
in New York. And that's what I

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was working with at the Playboy Club. And one night Peter decided he wanted

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to get something to eat with me, and we took the limo over to

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a very in the moment, very
old korant. This is the place to

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be seen. He was packed,
and he saw friends. So we ended

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up sitting with Missus Onassis, True
Pody and Andy Warhole. Oh fun.

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And I wish I had wonderful tittle
tattle from that dinner, but Andy was

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on some other universe from whatever he
was taking. Truman only wanted to talk

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to Peter about how do I say
this nicely? The genitalia of people they

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both knew, which left me to
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plain, her makeup was very light. She was wearing a salmon colored cowl

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necked sweater with a Swede expensive but
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She had the class to actually pretend
to be interested in my career. And

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that was the evening. That was
the evening I had with her. But

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nothing of a table, was of
any kind of seriousness was spoken. Right.

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I'd add that on to your commercial
for your wonderful book that I knew.

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Also, well, I haven't had
too many guests on who can say

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that they've actually dined with Jackie,
and that's very sweet of you to share

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that with us. Let's talk a
little bit back on Lucy. She had

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five shows, five actual television series
that you cover in your book, of

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course, the one from nineteen fifty
one to fifty seven, the original I

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Love Lucy was the one I was
just, you know, eight or nine

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years old and watched with my family
and everyone I knew. It was like

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it changed our lives. Any stories
from behind the scenes from that show that

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you could share with us that our
listeners might not know. Good Heavens is

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one hundred and eighty episodes altogether,
there's probably one hundred and eighty stories.

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Why don't you ask me something you've
always wanted to know and all answered for

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you. That way you can be
the voice for the public. Well,

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the one show got my favorite and
I think we still see it all the

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time. And this was the incredible
chocolate candy thing where she was in the

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factory with Ethel. How did she
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On screen they were magic. After
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too. They were having trouble casting
this show. You know, take half

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a step backwards in time. Lucy
Ball had a hit radio show called My

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Favorite Husband, Okay, And although
the characters' names were different, it was

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the same relationships. Young wife who
wants to be a matron in society is

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married a good looking young guy who
thinks she's crazy, and then there's an

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older couple lighting the fire lighting matches
under both of them to give them reasons

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to fight. Richard Denning played her
husband. Gail Gordon played the Fred Mertz

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part. Okay, e Bena Derrett, who was the voice of Betty Rubble

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on The Flintstones and was Gracie Allen's
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and the star of pennicoat Junction,
played the Ethel Mertz part, although not

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called Ethel Mertz. CBS wanted to
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I'll only do it if Dessie can
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and CBS wanted no part of him
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he was of a different race and
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relationship on CBS in nineteen fifty one. So miss Ball and mister Arnez toured

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briefly. People think they toured from
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briefly and just in the few cities
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audience has responded so beautifully. Okay, CB, I said, all right,

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we get it, this will work
fine. But they were having trouble

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getting Fred Mertz and getting Ethel Mertz. So I'll tell you how they found

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Ethel. Because the original director of
I Love Lucy was a man named Mark

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Daniels, and he knew Vivian Vans
from Broadway because Vivian had been ethel Merman's

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understudy on Broadway and had started her
own couple of musicals and shows on the

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stage, was appearing in San Diego
and everybody involved went down to see her,

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and Dessi hired her on the spot, oh wow, but didn't really

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tell Lucille about it, and of
course jess Oppenheimer, the producer of the

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show. As first day, first
read, first episode, Vivian is there

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early. Bill Frawley is already there, show how dependable he is because he

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has a drinking problem. And Vivian
pulls Dessi aside and says, Dessie,

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who's the old coat. And Dessie
said to her, Honey, that's the

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man that's gonna play your husband.
Okay, he said, husband, he

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can play my grandfather. We will
heard this and never ever forgave her for

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it, really, but his anger
towards her was written into the script.

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Okay. Now miss Ball shows up
because she's the star. She comes last

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and walks over to Vivian, Hi, who what what part are you here

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to read for? M And Vivian
said, I'm not reading for anything.

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I've been hired to play ethel Mertz, and miss Ball said, you can't

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play ethel Mertz. Vivian said,
why the hell not. She said,

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you're my age, you're pretty,
you have a nice figure, your color,

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your hair color is the same as
mine. And Vivian very wise,

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They said to her, tell me, miss Ball, what does ethel Mertz

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look like? And miss Ball said, oh, she's older and dumpy and

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doesn't wear clothes well, and she
bleaches her hair out, but there's always

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dark roots because she doesn't stay on
top of it, and she's kind of

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a frump. And Vivian said to
her, I can't give you that this

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week. I can start giving it
to you next week. Really, what

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they did was she went all the
way to Santa Barbara, California, to

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a hairstylist that she trusted constantly.
Ethelmertz's hair is constantly changing colors to show

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that it's not consistent, and she's
not a glamour puss costumers, and she

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wore what makeup she needed to wear
to be seen on television, but in

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the beginning, no false eyelashes,
no glamor makeup dresses. Her dresses were

437
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house dresses that were bought from or
box, and they bought her dresses,

438
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her braziers, her panties, her
stockings, her shoes one size too small,

439
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:21.920
so that every weight she was at
any moment, she looked like she

440
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was, you know, like too
much sausage in casing. Okay, okay,

441
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they put her and they put her
in wedgies so that you're plumped around.

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She didn't walk with grace. The
advance would do, and it worked

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to define the character. Oh,
Vivian and Lucille did not see ida eye

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in the beginning, but as the
show caught on, the quote is kind

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of misleading. The quote is Vivian
said to someone, if this show gets

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any more successful, I'm gonna have
to learn to love that bitch. That's

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a great I love that. Well, they did learn to love each other.

448
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Yeah, Vivia and Lucille really found
out how good Vivian was at comedy

449
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and speedcraft and relied on her and
leaned on her, and they became like

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sisters. Oh. When she started
a Lucy show in nineteen sixty two,

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her one proviso was, it has
to be with Vivian. Oh can do

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the show without her? Okay,
Oh that I love hearing that story.

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Jeff. Right now, we're going
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And I know some of the people
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and I hope I'm in volume three, oh for sure, because you're

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my official glitter guy and your story
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as I have no idea serious We'll
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wearing stuff, but my story,
I think will inspire our friends out there.

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Yeah, that's basically what I'm trying
to do with this show. I've

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been doing this for a long time
and I just have I love hearing other

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people's stories, and I love hearing
not so much what you have to do

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to be successful, but I like
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experience, they can tell you what
not to do, because that's that's the

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fun stuff to share, especially with
our young listeners. Will you have me

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back and I've got a lot to
say about those subjects. Good, I

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will have you back there. And
folks, I'm not getting paid for this,

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and she didn't ask me. Get
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When Lucy brought her children into her
career, how did that go? Were

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the kids thrilled about it or were
they reluctant And it was a natural extension

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I think of their childhoods. They
had appeared with Lucille and Gary Morton on

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Password a few times. Okay,
they were all the last episode of I

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00:43:54.440 --> 00:44:00.920
Love Lucy. Dessie Junior and Keith
Tibbet, who played Little Ricky used to

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entertain with a little band of their
own in between setups. So from the

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beginning they were doing little things and
this was their life. This is what

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this was their reality. Our parents
own Desilu Studios. It was the biggest

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movie studio in the world. In
the world, folks. That's why mister

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Arnez was so brilliant at what he
did, because that was all mister Arnez.

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So you know, the Desilu Studios
is like a playground for them.

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They were there a lot. They
were there in the audience seeing shows being

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made. It was Miss Ball's idea
that they join her for Here's Lucy.

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Both of them had appeared on Well
Lucy. Arnez had done a few little

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parts on The Lucy Show. Dessi
Junior had joined his father twice on The

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Mothers in Law, which Dessie Arnez
produced and directed. Okay, miss Ball

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00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:04.440
felt that right in nineteen sixty eight, is the show was being filmed,

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you know, literally was when Bobby
Kennedy got assassinated and Martin Luther King got

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assassinated and there was unrest in college
campuses, and she felt rightly or wrongly

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because I'm not entirely sure it was
a good idea for them. I mean

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that she could bring her kids into
the fold and protect them, just have

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them there with her, and she
could make sure that they would be okay.

519
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:35.480
I don't know that that was I
don't know, but she got what

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she wanted. Her desire is admirable
as a parent, and I did launch

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two very very successful careers, each
of them, you know, as is

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a Broadway star and a cabaret star, and if DESSI was a movie star

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and TV star and recording star.
And yeah, I don't think it was

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a bad idea. The only thing, and I talk about this in my

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book, is that the people miss
Ball hired to be writers at that time

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didn't give the television family much of
a backstory. If you watch the very

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first episode Appear's Lucy Yes. Seasons
later, you watch for the last episode

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after that first one. You didn't
learn anymore about the family after that than

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what they told you, except there
was an episode. So in this show,

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Lucille Ball paid Lucy Carter yeah and
played her brother in law, Harry,

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and the kids were Kim and Craig. Yeah. Well Harry brings in.

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It turns out that Harry has a
sister who's a sister. Is there

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lots of fun in that? Well, actually there was because Mary Wicks played

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the nun oh okay, and Lucille
is meeting her for the first time,

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and of course they had to use
the line so what's sister and laugh,

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but make a step back in reality. Harry is her brother in law.

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That makes Harry Catholic if his sister
is a nun. Well, family is

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Catholic because Harry is her brother in
law, but that makes the nun her

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00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:19.039
brother and our sister in law?
Who doesn't ask how the kids are and

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00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:27.599
Lucy character asks react as if she's
never met this person before, was surprised

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that Harry had a sister who was
a nun? How many couldn't you just

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see some really cool priest who would
drop by once a month just to see

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00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:43.000
what crazy thing Lucy was doing that
week. It would have been a nice

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00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.960
ongoing peace and do not have the
the family be Catholic, you know,

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a little spice to the story.
Well I told that to both Lucy and

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Dessi Junior and they said, where
the hell were you in here helping us?

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I said, well, you know, when that episode was being filmed,

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I was twelve. Sorry, I'll
try better. I'll try harder in

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the next life to get my jobs
even earlier than I did. Yeah,

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but Here's Lucy was a funny show, but the kids were not well written

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00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:22.880
for. Lucy Arnez and Dessie Junior
really made their own ways on their own,

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developing their own talents. And if
I would ever take a hat off

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in public, my hat would be
off to them for what they've been able

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to accomplish. Yes, they had
famous families and famous names, but when

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the camera starts rolling or the orchestra
starts playing, you either you either got

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it or you ain't. And boys, they got it, they got it.

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You know, we're going to be
closing up chop right now. There

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was my one wine for the day. Okay, okay, it's so wonderful

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to have you and discover a glitter
guy and I'm so thrilled to be able

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to share you with all of our
listeners. And our upcoming guests will be

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just like Mark, exciting and energizing. Next show, we're going to have

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Jim Hardy from the Bob Hope Channel's
going to be visiting with us, so

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now with him. Oh, I'm
looking forward to signing off from the Glitter

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Granny signing off from the Glitter Pappy. Thanks for entering the no Wine Zone

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with us today. Share our show
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need to stop whining, start smiling, and if that doesn't work, then

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you can start eating chocolate, lots
and lots of chocolate. I'm Eric and

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stay safe and thank you so much, Glitter Greg. We want to thank

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you for listening to January Joe sharing
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mantra, if you can think it, you can do it. That's what

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all of our guests have done with
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