Oct. 17, 2024

January Jones sharing Why You Get Mad When Talking Politics? The Biology of Politics

January Jones sharing Why You Get Mad When Talking Politics? The Biology of Politics

Have you ever found yourself in a full-blown fight about politics after what started as a calm conversation with a friend? How does that happen? Psychiatrist Melvyn Lurie says more is going on than you realize. Invite the author of “The Biology of...

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Have you ever found yourself in a full-blown fight about politics after what started as a calm conversation with a friend? How does that happen? Psychiatrist Melvyn Lurie says more is going on than you realize. Invite the author of “The Biology of Politics” to explain exactly what is happening. In plain terms, he says it’s all about basic biology; We all have certain drives that are part of our animal nature that must be met.

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Profits from this website go to Disabled American Veterans Company

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a Sarasota, Florida. Now, I'd like to ask you a

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question during this election season. Do you remember what your

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last political discussion was? Was it unpleasant? Experience. How do

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you feel about this election coming up? Tell me does

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anyone in your family even agree with you these days?

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Now? Have you ever heard of a book?

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It's called The Biology of Politics. If you can answer

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yes or maybe to any of these questions I've asked,

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then you are in the right place. And I'd like

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to welcome you to January Jones sharing senior success stories. Now,

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I'd like to tell you a little bit about my guests.

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But before I do, it's time to rest, relax, get

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some wine, get some cheese and crackers so you can

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In the no Way zone.

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My guest, I'm so excited to have him here with

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us today. He is a physician specializing in psychiatry. He

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received his degree from Harvard Medical School, where he then

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taught for twenty years at that school. His knowledge of

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genetics stems from medicine and from his study with four

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Nobel Prize winners at the Pastor Institute in Paris. He

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has experience in national politics, having worked as a field

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director in a presidential campaign where he spoke on the

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same stage with two future presidents. He is the author

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of the Biology of Politics, and it is my pleasure

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today to Welcome to our podcast, doctor Melvin Turi. Hi, doctor,

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how you doing.

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I'm doing fine, and thanks for inviting me to this podcast.

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Oh doctor Lurie, it's wonderful to have you.

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I've been looking forward to you coming because, as you know,

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everyone is talking about politics these days, aren't they.

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Well, it's not necessarily talking to some of their family members,

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their friends. Unfortunately, as you were saying.

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Well, I know, it's crazy.

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It's like this has been so divisive for so many families.

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And I'm sure that you have dealt with this. Now.

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When you wrote biology of Politics, you're talking about civilizations.

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They last two hundred and fifty years, and as far

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as I know, history tends to repeat itself.

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Is that true? Doctor?

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Absolutely? The question is why? Because we don't want this

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civilization of ours to disintegrate. So what That's what got

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me going.

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Okay, historians talk about wars and royalty, and they don't

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really give us enough information about the scientific aspect, and

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you write about the biology of human nature and how

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that works. Could you elaborate on that a little bit

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for us?

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Sure? Well, you see, because historians don't talk about biology

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of politics, they didn't know about it. Take another route.

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So I decided to study a lower species because it's

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simpler than our complicated human species. The question was which

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lower species, and I came up with nesting nesting species.

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So let's let's talk talk about birds. So what do

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birds do well? They bring there's an outside the nest

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adult that brings food in for the hatchlings. Right, independent

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have slings. In addition, they the outside the nest parent

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wards off danger would be intruders. Let me tell you

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a personal story. I got too close to a robin's

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nest one day, and before I knew it, there was

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this robin. He see to me seemed like a giant,

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and I pushed him away. He kept coming back. The

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only way I stopped it was to just run away.

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So it's not But the point is, that's how strongly

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this drive is to prevent would be intruders to the nest.

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Inside the nest, Inside the nest, reproduction takes place. We're

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not talking about sex, We're talking about reproductive development from

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infancy to adulthood.

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Okay.

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And once I saw what the functions were inside the nest,

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I could see how they were manifest in us humans.

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So the ones inside the nest are to feed, to nurture,

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and especially to tend to the most vulnerable at the

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time too, and also to clean the nest. Most people

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don't know it, but little hatchlings deliver a fecal sack

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to the mother, who then takes it out and keeps

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the nest clean.

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Oh my gosh, oh wow.

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You know, so that's where that comes from.

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Well, it's a drive. It's a drive, and we can

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see it manifested in the in the regular family unit.

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You know, go outside thet you're bring in money because

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you're not going to carry food in absolutely.

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You know.

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Welcome back with my guest who is definitely not a

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whiner because he is a winner. And uh, doctor Turi,

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would you share with our listeners your website and how

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where they can get your book so.

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They can get the book at the Biology of politics

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dot com, the Biology offpolitics dot com. My website is

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my name, Melvinlori dot com.

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Oh wonderful.

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talking about survival and reproduction and let's talk. Let's get

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right down to the nitty gritty. So it's applied to

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your biology is applied to politics. Could you give us

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some examples of what would happen if ex President Trump wins?

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And then also what would happen biologically speaking, if Kamala

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Harris wins.

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Could you give us some examples about that?

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Sure, So, our civilization is on a path, and on

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that path, we seem to be at aflection point between

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balance between survival and reproduction and imbalance and is that

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could be the thing that ends society's civilizations. So if

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Trump is elected to make America great again, he will

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move the clock back to when there was a balance

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between survival and reproduction. But by the way, after he's out,

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if he does this and he's out, the trend will

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continue because it's so strong, it's it's embedded in our society.

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If Harris wins, will continue on the path we've been

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on for the last four years. So that's and that

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unfortunately is such that it creates an imbalance between drives

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between drives, and until it's re established, our society is

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vulnerable to stressors. And we have a lot of stressors,

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as you know.

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So yes, let's let's talk about some of the stressors

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we have now. There's illegal immigration.

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Has a big.

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Topic that we hear a lot about.

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And you know, I was.

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Upset that it didn't pass in the Congress this last

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goal around.

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And do you have any thoughts about immigration?

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Sure, the reason it didn't pass is because the actual

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bill that was presented was would make things worse. About

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going into details, so it didn't pass. So everybody can say, oh,

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it didn't pass, but there's a reason. The reason is

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because it would make things worse. I can't go into

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the details. If you want, I can talk a little

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bit more about that. But the point is that we

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as a society don't understand and appreciate the drives that

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are in all of us to different degrees, but have

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split the society so that the people focusing on survival

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like economy and military, and the people focusing on reproduction,

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which is nurturing, caring most vulnerable, keeping things clean. There's

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an imbalanced and the trick, the idea to keep a

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civilization I think strong, is to allow all the drives

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to occur to the degree that they don't interfere with

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other drives, and we can, once we appreciate these are drives,

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deal with them. There's a sex drive with sex drives,

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but it you don't get willing nilly. I mean, you

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don't have cave men clubbing women and it's not allowed.

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We manage that drive so that it's fulfilled, but not

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to the detriment of other drives, like having a reasonable society.

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So that's an example I give. Because everybody can appreciate

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that there's a sexual drive, can they appreciate as a

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drive to cleanliness? Drive drive? It's not just some idea

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of nowhere to drive. And I could go on, but

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it seems like you have something to ask me.

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Okay, Now, you know, it's very important obviously to keep

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the economy strong. And so far what I'm seeing some

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of the numbers are indicating this has been one of

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the most incredible economies that we've had in many, many years.

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And what are your thoughts about our economy. Is biology

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related to the economy in any way?

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some way. The question is I mean, that's what my

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quest has been. How is it related? Yeah, okay, So

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the economy is just a more abstract or generalized manifestation

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of this drive to bring resources into the nest. The

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nest becomes the country the nest. So right, So it's

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a drive we want to we're driven to have money.

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A lot of people can't help it, and that's and

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so the economy is suffering because some inside the nest drives.

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Drives are interfering. But I say drives, what I mean

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is a behavior that it's going to happen. If it

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doesn't happen one way, it'll happen another way or another way.

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It's a drive. It keeps, It's like an urge or

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force keeps trying to happen. So but when you have

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an imbalance between let's take the reproductive drive of cleanliness,

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because lower species have cleanliness too, and we learn from them.

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the clean environment, if you take that to the end degree,

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to the point where you interfere with another drive, say

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the drive to have a strong economy, then you have

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an imbalance in a society. And that's when you're liable

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to disintegrate or to be a victim vulnerable to some force.

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And there are plenty of as you say, there are

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plenty of forces that are stressing our society.

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Now, oh yeah, yeah, And actually the stresses are just

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what we see every day in our news situation and

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all the things that we are hearing pro con that whatever.

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And it's such a divisive environment. Have you ever experienced

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any situation like this before?

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I haven't. The country has in terms of the civil war.

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But you see, we got over that stressor that divide,

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and this is what's going on. Anthropologists will say that

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when a society collapses, say from famine or route or

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an enemy, the question is why they collapsed then, because

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the society probably incurred those stressors before and overcame them.

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So the question is why can't our society overcome some

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of these stressors on us? Immigration is one, infiltration is another.

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And you know, this is what makes our society vulnerable

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right now. This is why I this is a mission

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for me. This is my mission. I want to get

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the word out because I feel that if people start

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to look at what happens in society from a biological perspective,

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First of all, they might be able to have a

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discussion their friends and the time.

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Okay, But by the same token, the people who make

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the laws our government, they can consider this when they

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make any policy decision.

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You can't go too much in one direction another direction.

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There has to be an equilibrium of balance.

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It goes on and there's you know, the sad situation.

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It seems to me that this immigration thing, whether it's

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with whichever party is in control, we've had this problem.

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This is a long range problem that keeps coming back

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over and over again, and it's just, you know, something

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that just has to be solved, don't you agree.

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Well, of course yes, as it does. The question is

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what will it be Because it's happening because of the

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people in charge, and they continue to be in charge,

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probably continue it. Unfortunately, that's it's easier to see how

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that can lead to the collapse of the society, that

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how it can change the culture, change economics of society

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because we're spending so much money on the immigrants, see

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at the expense of the overall economy and the military.

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So well, it's understanding and appreciating these things go ahead.

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It's been very difficult.

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I'm you know, like everyone I suppose, I'm from a

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family of immigrants and everyone in this country.

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Been very upsetting to see the negative portrayal of immigrants

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because as you and I know, there are so many.

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They are the people who made this country what it is.

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My family, your family, and my husband's family. And it's

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very sad that people are saying negative things about immigrants,

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don't you think, Well, it.

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Is, but I mean they always specify illegal immigrants. My

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father's an immigrant. Came over the hard way, the right way.

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We waited, Hi, he waited, and he finally was able

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to get the permission of visa to come. So, believe me,

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I am sympathetic to that. And you hear this in

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the media that most people are fine with immigrants. The

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question is you can't overwhelm the society. America cannot feed

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the world. Everybody keeps coming in. We can't handle it.

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Not to mention, not to mention that if one percent

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of the what they say is ten million, that's one

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hundred thousand, okay, one hundred thousand. If those people are

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the robbers, the rapers, the murderers that Donald Trump talks

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a lot about, that's one hundred thousand. That's one hundred thousand.

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We don't know who they are even. That's see, that's

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totally uncontrolled.

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And well it's uncontrolled because basically it's pretty hard to document,

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isn't it.

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I mean, how do you know.

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When people come over which one's rapist and which one's

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a robber. You know, it's kind of like a lot

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of these people just are coming overlooking for work. And

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those people are actually good for the economy, aren't they

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the worker bees?

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Yeah, absolutely, And you see our economy, our culture has

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dealt with that over the years. They've been migrants to

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come in, do the work, and they go back home,

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and we have regular immigration. It's when things when things

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get out of hand, that's the problem, and that creates

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the tension because you can't have people focused on the

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economy seeing us try to feed the world, and it

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immoralizes the military who are trying to stop would be intruders.

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That's how it comes out, genetically stop would be intruders.

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And the military can't even fulfill its quota, it's recruiting quota.

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So we have weakened survival because we've basically taken it

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for granted and we've overdone reproductive issues to keep things

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clean and take care of the most vulnerable.

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Okay, well, we're going to take a break right now,

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and I've written a memoir that I want to share

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with our listeners when we come back. I do want

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to talk about the reproduction situation in this country and

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the stress it has cause for quite a few women.

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We'll be right.

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Back introducing Living and Dying Without Whining, a memoir Eighty

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Welcome back with my guest today, doctor Melvin Turrey. He

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is the author of Biology Apology. He graduated from Harvard

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and he actually taught at Harvard for I think twenty

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some years. What an impressive background. We were talking about

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stress and reproduction and this is a big topic for

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all the women in this country as far as their

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reproduction held. And that kind of fits in with your

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biology topic, doesn't This It.

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Does, And here's what's what I think is happening. Yeah, women,

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traditional women were stuck in the nest. They didn't really

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sustain themselves and a lot that were, but overall they

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didn't and they were vulnerable. I mean, think of what

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a person feels if their life depends on someone coming

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back home every night and having money to buy food.

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So this stress on women was solved, I think, basically

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by the pill and it has allowed women to come

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out of the nest and participate in survival issues in

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the economy, in the military. So so that's happening. Now.

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What happens when the reproductive people are doing survival and

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what happens to the reproduction And that's what's happened in

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our society and others. It's not unusual that when societies

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become more advanced and women can function as well as men,

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they're not plowing the field all the time. For example,

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this happens the birth rate goes down. The problem problem is,

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and it's happening in a lot of societies, if you

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don't have enough young people to support the older people

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who are retired and not working, at some point you

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have the things to start to disintegrate. Case in China,

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you know, they limited reproduction for a long time. It's

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happening there, It's happening in other places. Every society needs

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a young. It needs offspring because as they grow they're

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able to support with social security whatever, the people who

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can't work anymore. And it happens now with social security,

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but it happened over the ages when the children supported

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the parents. It's this is we're talking about human function,

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human nature, human drives. But they can get out of

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hand now then people say, well, what are we going

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to do about it? What are we going to do

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about it? That's the hard part. But the first part.

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First part is recognizing what's happening. If you don't recognize

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what's happening, then you're just you're just floating in the water.

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So here we go. A lot of women personally the

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basis to sustain themselves. They can work equally with men

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in the workplace. This is outside the nest, the country,

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the house.

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But you know, we're basically I'm a feminist in our

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generation is the one. We're the first ones that actually

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had access to the pill, and we're the first women

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that actually were able to do our birth control and

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take control of it and not be victimized by other aspects.

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I think the pill was one of the most amazing

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things that has come forth scientifically, biologically, in our lifetime,

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don't you agree?

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Yes, it's amazing how technology can change the culture. Do

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you remember parietals? I don't know if your audience does,

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but I bet you do. Parietal rules in the colleges.

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There are lots of things like that that disappeared because

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unwanted pregnancy didn't happen. Yeah, they're good and bad for

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all this. See there's good in bad. So the downside

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is that women move out of that can move out

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of the house, engage in the survival mode. Now, it

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used to be that women who are able to do

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both that just have children and have a career, they

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were they were called special. Uh it was the word

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people use, magic women or something like that.

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Now women.

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Now more women can do it, but still a lot can't.

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And they turn around and they're forty and it might

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be a little too late to engage in reproductive So

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what is one of this one of the ways to

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deal with it. First of all, it has to be

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appreciated for what it is, that how how biological it is.

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But one way I think can help is to have

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daycare available, starting in large corporations, free to the female employees,

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so they don't have to worry that nobody's going to

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take care of their baby. And not only that, this

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is I think this should be run to the extent

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it can by hospitals, by the medical community. Why, because

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you're not going to have that many people who have

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bad urges in that community. And and and the cost

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is well worth it, because society needs children and women

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women want children too, So a man, of course, but

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if they're focused on their career, yeah.

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It's hard. Yeah. And you know, as we have in

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vitro grandchildren.

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So we are very thankful for some of the things

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that have happened in young women's lives that they enabled

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them to be more reproductive, where before a lot of

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these options weren't available. And I think women's health reproduction

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help women's healthcare. I think it's going to be a

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tremendous issue in this election.

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Sure, it definitely is, and it comes out in different ways.

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I mean, this is a whole abortion discussion. For example,

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you know, abortion biologically is seen in animals. In mammals

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for example, Yeah, a certain animal might be frightened with

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a little brood behind her, might be frightened by something.

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A question is does she stay and try to protect

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her young or does she neglect them for her own

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survival And what happens in nature is the latter. They

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don't focus on the vulnerable family. The idea is the

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person who survives can then have children again, children buy

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That's it.

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That's a very interesting example and it just happens naturally

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throughout civilization. This has been such an interesting discussion to

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have you with us.

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And are you do.

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Have any more books coming up or what do you

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What do you have in your future plans?

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Oh?

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Well, a lot of plans. But I'm really trying to

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to get the word out and that's why I'm giving

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the way the book free is free, yes, because I

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want the word to get out. Money is really secondary.

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I mean, I'm older the mortgage so for me. For me,

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I'm focusing on current issues and I want to get

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the word out on this. It's a mission. I'm driven

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to do this because it's so important in terms of

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our society.

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And where could our listeners. You said you're giving it

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a way free, where would we go for that?

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They go to the Biology of Politics dot com.

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Oh okay, that's it, And it's also available for people

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who actually want to buy it. You can go to

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Glitter Granny and get it on Amazon. You know, it's

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been wonderful, Doctor Melvin to have you with us, and

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I hope you will come back again. And it's interesting

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to get your view and slant on what's going on

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in this crazy world we're living. And thank you so

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much for coming on the show today.

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Well, thanks very much for inviting me. I want to

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get the word out.

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Okay, maybe this will do it. I'm looking next week.

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I'm looking forward to welcoming Dan lose Otter. He is

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the author of The Manchurian Journalist, which rings a bell

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for all of us people that watched The Manchurian Candidate

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many years ago.

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Thank you for.

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Entering the No Wine Zone with us today. It's been

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a pleasure to have you share our stories and our

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show with everyone you know. And we'll look forward to

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seeing you again. And in the meantime, remember to stop

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whining and then start smiling as if that doesn't work,

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then you can start eating chocolate, lots and lots of chocolate.

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Take care and stay safe. Be sure to glitter and

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glow until we meet again.

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Oh bye.

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